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07.08.08, 14:30 PM NY Schools
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If your dc from a daycare gets 98 or 99, has non-pita parents, dc is well socialized and aces school visit, and school report is good, then the odds for that dc to get into TT is very good. Not any worse than from so called TT prek's - in fact, dc will face less competition from within. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 07.08.08, 02:30 PM Flag
 

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General Topics 07.08.08, 02:33 PM Flag
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yeah, every day, someone asks about this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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This is naive. Lots of kids with 99s or 98s only get second or even third tier accepts, no matter where they come from. And sometimes none, and nothing is wrong with the dc. Just late spring birthday may well do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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I'm talking about daycare vs TT prek here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 02:49 PM Flag
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my point is I would not tell anyone that their odds of getting dc into TT private are very good, daycare or TT preK. Unless there is something special the dc has it is still a huge crapshoot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 02:51 PM Flag
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I think it is. 99dc with non-pita parents and dc who aced school visit and good school report with early birthday has a good chance. A kid like that not getting into any TT - there are those, but for most kids in that situation, good chance. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 02:57 PM Flag
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If you have a boy, there are 4 TT schools to apply to. Trinity is close to lost cause IMO, so that leaves you with 3. If you don't want your ds to commute to the Bronx at the ripe age of 5, you are left with 2. Also, very few kids ace the school visit, odds are your 99 kid will do fine but not 'ace' it if by acing you mean totally stand out above all the other kids. If ds really showed star quality and stood out, then Collegiate or Dalton would probably take him, but really, only handful of kids do. A bit easier situation for girl as there are more spots but still hard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:07 PM Flag
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You are right. I have a dd and was thinking of girls. But if you count K-8 as TTs for boys' schools, then same odds. St B and Buckley are great schools, just not to 12th grade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:24 PM Flag
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When are you people going to stop promoting this BS myth that there are 99s out there w/out serious issues that get rejected ! I have worked in admissions at one of the most competitive schools in the city and believe me 99x3 are few and far between this is a group of bitter women who lied about their dcs scores trying to create this myth so that people do not look on their children badly. Very very sad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:28 PM Flag
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I'm sure those kids who don't get accepted are more of an exception than the rule, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:30 PM Flag
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Which dcs? these phantom 99x3s that don't exist? sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:31 PM Flag
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99x3 dc who got SO from TTs despite normal family, can pay their way, etc. I remember seeing some posts (not that many but)... I gotta think the dc bombed the school visit or has issues or had bad school report or pita parents or something.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:33 PM Flag
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In the five years I have worked in my field I have seen only 3 99s rejected for those reasons and yes, where I work is TT and highly sought after [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:38 PM Flag
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np; 99 dd got into multiple TTs despite asking for a lot of FA. I guess you are right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:41 PM Flag
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Yes happens every year and at every school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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Yes, very few dcs who score 99x3 and have decent play date are rejected anywhere. That's right, anywhere. Two UB myths: no one gets in everywhere or into more than three schools and SO even at the 99x3 level are rampant. Not true on both counts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:36 PM Flag
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my dc with that score did well in the process, but of the 3 TT where we applied, he was accepted at one, wl at one, and rejected at one. No idea why the outright rejection. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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Chances are the WL would have turned into an accept if you had pressed the issue and the one rejection could have been a clash of philosophy btw you and the interviewer during process or was a casualty of some of the peculiar rejects of high scorers with great play dates that do occur each year. Not in large number but they do happen. I am sure you are very happy with your choice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:40 PM Flag
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np: Oh come on. Neither Trinity nor Dalton will not take you unless you know they are on the top of their list, you must know this if you are in admissions. If your PSD tells them you really want Brearley or Spence, they will never accept you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:45 PM Flag
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nnp. Which is why, to go back to the OP's point, it can be a huge plus if dc is coming from daycare or an off-the-radar preschool; the directors don't play those reindeer games. BTDT. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 08:16 PM Flag
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yes, we are happy, but also feel lucky. In retrospect, it probably was a philosophy clash at the rejected school. I don't think the wl, however, would have turned to an accept . . . as the wl was trinity, which felt impossible from the beginning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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Same here - expect that we applied to 4 and dc was rejected at two - one I know why, dh was not into that school at all - the other I was surprise, but stuff happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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^^^except [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:56 PM Flag
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i thought there are 100 99's (99x3) or so. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:31 PM Flag
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oh god.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:31 PM Flag
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Where on earth are you getting this? Do you know what 99% means? It means did better than 99% of the population who took the test! You think all the smart dcs in the nations live on the UES? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:32 PM Flag
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I read from some article (I think) there were 60 or 100 kids who got 99th percentile. I know there were about 50-60 kids who got 99 on SB. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:35 PM Flag
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no. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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Which part? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:39 PM Flag
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hijack; I wonder how many get 99 on SB and ERB... 20? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:42 PM Flag
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NP: why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:45 PM Flag
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No, private mom here. Just wondering how ERB and SB correlates. Also just curious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:47 PM Flag
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Fairly well IME not exact, not always, but fairly equal [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:52 PM Flag
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More verbal dc tend to do a little better on ERB and more mathematical on SB (but this is by 1 to 2 points). They often, but not always, are within a point of one another. Remember that we are testing four year olds here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:06 PM Flag
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99 on SB this year (hunter reject) got a 98 on the erbs (99/98/98). Fall bday so haven't applied to privates yet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:28 PM Flag
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Know of one 99 sb and 99x3 child this year. Will be going to Dalton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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My child with the same scores was totally rejected (not even wl) at Dalton (got into two other tts, though, including fc). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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There are not 60 to 100 dcs who score that who apply to private. Not every high scorer has money for private and the remainder that do get into great schools providing their families are not horrors and the dcs themselves do not have issues [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:39 PM Flag
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Why take ERB if not applying to privates (requesting FA)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:40 PM Flag
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Plenty of people seem to do it and then those numbers just never enter the application process. They might have moved, decided they couldn't afford it, decided it wasn't worth it. I love the school where I work but its not for everyone and not everyone wants private not even TT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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Hmm... if fewer than 50 kids with 99 apply to privates, I guess the odds are really good. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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And fewer than 50 do. Think about it. You are a competitive mom and your dc who you think is a genius scores in the 70s or 80s. Do you tell your friends that dc scored badly? No. or do You apply dc everywhere and then when the rejections come in you claim it was in the high 90s or 99 and blame the system for a shutout. Then you come on UB which is the temp taker for these issues and spread this rumor to support your story. Mothers will do anything to protect the image of their child. I know, I work in admissions! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:51 PM Flag
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np: True, but I do know that people have really smart dc who, for some reason don't score high and are honest with their close friends. I also know, personally, of a few very high scorers who were SO, but all needed FA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:03 PM Flag
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I hear this a lot from trusting people, unless you sat there and opened the score results with them you really don't know what your friends dc scored Furthermore, I would never say a dc who did not score in the 90s was average or weak minded but a 99x3 is never almost rarely a mistake. Those that score that level did not have a good day they just are that level. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:06 PM Flag
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Some people actually do show each other reports. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:12 PM Flag
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Some do. And some post that some lie and say they do to support their insane agenda to promote that the system is flawed not that their dc just didn't score well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:15 PM Flag
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I think that is totally true, but you have to admit that the system is not perfect and has some flaws, no? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:17 PM Flag
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What system is perfect? None. But is this system far more fair than people on tis board with an agenda make it out to be? Yes. Bottom line, not everyone can have a brilliant and high scoring child and believe or not, not everyone does. It is not that difficult to choose from the selection of applicants but it is in the applicants best interest to make it seem like it is a flawed system where brilliants children are rejected everyday. But its not. In my years, and granted it is only five years, but in those years I have seen only a handful of qualified engaging dcs rejected from our tt and the circumstances surrounding those were peculiar. I don't understand it, people should take heart in what I am saying which is truthful and yet there are so many more people on this board with an agenda that they all fight me. It is fairly obvious as to why. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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Mine was rejected from some and accepted at others. I know very few dc who had more than two or three accepts. So, some must fall through the cracks. I do think you are right that people go off the deep end with this & there are people who only want TT and so do not apply very broadly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:25 PM Flag
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Yes, two or three accepts is standard. What you read on this site is that dcs either get one school only or are shut out. Not the case. There are several dcs each year who get in almost everywhere (not a lot but a decent number) but this idea that dcs are given only one slot and that there is a large SO number is just crazy ladies pushing agendas. Take heart, the people around you may be nuts but the process is far less so. Good luck to you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:37 PM Flag
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np: my high scoring dc got only one, but we needed FA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:38 PM Flag
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You are FOS. I personally know a 99 and saw the schores. The child got shut out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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Behavior issues or pita mom, most likely. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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Listen my dc had a lower score & we had a PSD who knew no one and dc got into a TT. It is a crap shoot though - a good PSD can help. Whatever you do, apply broadly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:54 PM Flag
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I would agree with this. We generally do not take a lot of 80s but our reputation can afford to dip the scores of the ones we accept. Also, this idea of connected PSDs, is just a load. Go local. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 03:57 PM Flag
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Dip the scores? You mean below 95? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:00 PM Flag
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I mean pull from below 90s [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:01 PM Flag
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Ah? I don't think or said her dc had a score below 90. Interesting though, what about a dc would make you go below a 90? I realize that you may not be able to answer this completely or at all, but I am just curious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:04 PM Flag
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Scores are just one part of the complete equation. The play date and internal test mean much more. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:06 PM Flag
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ah, what do we have here? A wannabe admissions person at some private school? I tried to pull that once here on UB, too. It actually worked quite nicely. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:15 PM Flag
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You think she is making this up? Possible, but who knows - so far she seems honest. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:18 PM Flag
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I am just saying a few years ago I pretended to be in admissions of some private school and lots of folks bought it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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Then you are sick [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:24 PM Flag
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It was a social experiment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:36 PM Flag
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so funny. I did the same. everyone got all sappy, and thanked me for my helpful advice (which I think was pretty damned good advice) and coming to speak to them here onUB [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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Or you too have an agenda. Why would you try to pull that if you weren't mentally ill or interested in promoting an agenda? You have ratted yourself out here, move along. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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You guys need a break from UB. You are taking it way too seriously. Do you really take information from here w/o double-checking the "facts"? It was an experiment back then. And I know that I am not the only one who pretends here on UB. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:34 PM Flag
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The 'facts' support what OR is saying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:35 PM Flag
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np: No admissions person in her right mind would post here. Most admissions directors as well as PSDs scan or have someone scan this board (there were several that admitted to it during tours/interviews) so nobody in their right mind would risk their job by doing this. It is a lot easier to identify people on here than some think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:44 PM Flag
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I know Babby reads it - she mentioned UB and her reputation here on our tour, which made me really like her :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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Obviously you have an agenda. Any thinking person with an interest in this topic would be heartened by what she is saying not suspicious. Why would she post that it is a far more fair process than it is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:24 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:26 PM Flag
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before I leave just a couple words: take everything here on UB with a big rock of salt. It is anonymous. The "admissions" person here did not state anything at all that convinces me that she actually is what she is. She just talks about things that 50% of all of us believe anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:38 PM Flag
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Except you agenda mom. Have a great night Buh bye [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:40 PM Flag
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np: She is right though. Half of what is posted on UB is worthless crap, and if you buy it you are at your own peril. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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LOL - she might be right. I think admissions mom is telling the truth, but we have to keep in mind that she is speaking about her experience at one school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:48 PM Flag
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HAPPENED TO MY FRIEND! They ended up on waitlists. It really sucked for them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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