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07.07.08, 08:03 AM General Topics
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Do you think it is fair for one child with a serious peanut allergy to dictate what the entire school eats for lunch? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 07.07.08, 08:03 AM Flag
 

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I know this is not PC, but no, literally one child, no. But I doubt there is only one child with allergies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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yes i do. if my child had severe allergies i would expect the school to act accordingly. i feel for those parents who have kids with allergies! i don't know how they cope it would push me over the edge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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ITA. Family we know has a severe problem with DD who is allergic to nuts, eggs, and dairy. Epipen allergic. I don't know how they cope when the a simple meal can be literally deadly to DD [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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yep, dd's school is in the process of moving to be a nut free school it's not that big of a deal for us as she is not allergic. imagine what it would be like for you to have to worry every single minute that your child might be exposed to something that could kill him or her. btw my dd [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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last year this little girl held hands with another boy from class to walk to library. He had eaten cheese Doritos and she swelled up and had to be epi-penned. Seriously, how much dairy could there even be in a Dorito. It's terrifying for her family. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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would it be fair to that one kid to die because the other parents can't be bothered not to put peanut products in with lunch? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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But dont count on me to be rigorous about preventing peanut products in DCs lunch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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that's very callous [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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Yup but so what? I am not reading labels and picking through he grocery store for foods your kid can tolerate in addition to the food preferences and needs of my own kids. And I guarantee you no one else will either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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Our family doesn't eat meat, so to take an entire protien group off the table is a big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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that's bull, we're vegetarian too, it's not like we can't survive without peanuts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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we are vegetarian and peanut butter is a HUGE part of my child's diet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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you may be an ass - and I believe that you are - but I do not believe that other parents are as lazy and unkind as you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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lololol - and I wouldn't put my childs life at stake to prove my point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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so I suppose you would home school, which seems wise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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my dd's class was nut free last year and I actually learned a great deal about allergies and was able to provide her with nut free homemade lunches everyday. It wasn't really that big of a deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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exactly, but you are a caring and involved parent. the lady above is not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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I am a very caring and involved parent - to my kids. Yours? Not so much. And again, consider this across the board and be careful whom you trust with your childs life if the whiff of a peanut is so deadly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:29 AM Flag
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exactly. You're the mom who raises self-involved assholes. Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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NP: The OR is trying to be offensive, but I think the overall question is a valid one. If you are the parent of a severely allergic child, how much of the burden of accomodating your child's allergy can you reasonably and comfortable switch to your school or to other parents? Not sending PB&J is one thing - easy enough for parents to do and easy enough for the school to spot if the parents don't comply. But if you start talking about reading labels for all food products or needing to wash other DC hands/brush their teeth if they have contact with peanuts at home, there's a possiblity that even a "caring and involved" parent makes an innocent mistake that ends up hurting your child. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:46 AM Flag
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You are so wrong...at nut free schools parents do read labels to help out a dc with life threatening allergies. Anything I miss comes homes with a note from the teacher. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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This must be private school right? There is no way parents would do this at most public schools. Some kids are lucky to be fed anything at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:41 AM Flag
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if the allergies are that life threatening than they should not be somewhere that could not possibly be monitored closely enough. i do not think you should dictate what an entire school of children should eat. what if someone is a vegetarian and they have nuts as a regular part of their diet? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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Kids with that kind of allergy need to be in a sep. facility. Both to avoid the issues their presence brings but also to ensure their safety - I wouldn't want to count of all those other people for my kids safety. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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it is totally illegal to seperate kids with allergies, why not seperate them by race, color or religion as well. What a dopey idea. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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Of course it is not "totally illegal" to separate children with special needs - it is done every day in every school district in America. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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not in a totally different facility as above stated. _R_E_A_D_ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:28 AM Flag
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W - R - O - N - G [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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According to special education law, students must be with their nondisabled (nonallergic?) peers as much as possible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:24 AM Flag
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That not true at all. Kids with allergies do sit at a separate table at our public school, especially on PB&J days. Why would that be illegal? It's done for their safety. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:39 AM Flag
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but WHY is this happening ?! It's scary and creepy that a few years ago this didn't really exist and now it is a serious issue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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FYI: The claims of "deadly allergies" and the actual incidence of untoward events don't match. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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It has actually been blown way out of proportion. Deadly peanut allergies are extremely rare, but most people don't know the difference b/t a mild one and a severe one so err on the side of caution. That said, the deadly variety do exist, so if most people do overreact to dc's allergies some do not. It really is not that big of a deal not to pack PB & J. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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did even the not deadly ones exist - say - thirty years ago ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:28 AM Flag
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Yes, they did. I had a friend with the deadly one. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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I hear about it all the time now and as a kid never heard about it at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:36 AM Flag
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Because people are more aware. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:53 AM Flag
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so you do not believe there is an increase ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:54 AM Flag
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np: in that Harpers article below, a researcher from the CDC says there are too few actual allergies to base any epidemiological statements. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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Well, I'm 40 and I knew two kids growing up who had deadly nut allergies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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not to mention the fact - where does it end? What about the kids with egg/wheat/soy allergies? What about kids that are diabetic? What about kids that are immuno-suppressed? By the time kids are in school (grade school, that is), the child should know what they can/cannot eat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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ITA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:21 AM Flag
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the biggest difference is that nut allergies are more likely to be airborne. and peanut butter is more likely to stick on kids' hands. and peanut and tree nut allergies are more likely to have severe reactions than egg, wheat, soy and other allergies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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Yes and No. I mean at what point do you "stop!" I work at a private school and we accomodate EVERY illness/allergy. But we had someone complain early in the year that they had a pepper (as in seasoning) allergy and asked that we do not serve or cook with it - GIVE ME A BREAK! Unless the very smell of something could potentially kill you (which I know a peanut allergy could entail). It's tough and I'm not sure what the answer is! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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Lately I feel schools accomodate peanut allergies more than any thing else. If your kid was in wheel chair the school wouldn't spend the $$ to make the school wheel chair accessable. If you child was blind or deaf they would tell you we can't handle that here. ADHD and not on meds. SEE YOU LATER. but a peanut allergy is this big PC thing to get behind. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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The makers of the epipen and its competitor put a lot of money into this! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:33 AM Flag
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I can atest to that. My dc was in a wheel chair for half of last school year. The school did nothing to accomodate. We had to do everything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:51 AM Flag
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Move to Oregon if your kid has a disability.... we have really accomodating ADA policies. The whole school would be ADA accessible to begin with, before anyone even needed it to be. Haven't heard quite so much about peanuts though, so I guess its not the place for you if you have that problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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I think it is fair to require that the claims be documented and the kids be retested regularly. If the child is really so severely allergic that mere exposure could be fatal, than of course ban peanuts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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^^^then [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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I found this interesting: http://harpers.org/media/slideshow/annot/2008-01/index.html [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:40 AM Flag
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Forbidding nuts is not a difficult task for parents to meet. Sorry. You get used to it. It's not that hard. It's worth everyone's time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:42 AM Flag
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If no one in the school is allergic -- should nuts be baned? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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That is the rational for telling Americans they can't do something now? "It isn't a lot of work. Sorry, you'll get used to it." We ought to have a higher standard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 09:58 AM Flag
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My school just went nut free and I am waiting for the new year to request a meeting with the director to review the issue. For one thing, having a nut free school does nothing for children who have serious allergies to other foods. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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I think it's good for my non-allergic son to learn to be considerate of others & that there's a time & place for everything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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1. this child is not dictating what they eat for lunch. she is dictating what they don't eat for lunch. 2. i don't know about fair but it is necessary. schools are required to provide safe environments. the same way they need ramps for wheelchair students. what i'm curious about is what's going to happen when there's a generation of highly allergic adults. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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Jesus Christ, are you willing to endanger the health and safety of another child for A PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICH??? Newsflash for you: the world is full of tasty, peanut-free foods that your child will enjoy eating during lunchtime. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:30 AM Flag
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I love you and everyone above who supports peanut free! signed a mom of a peanut allergic child [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 08:35 AM Flag
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I know a child with a life-threatening milk allergy who got raised welts on his leg when another child's yogurt splattered on his pants when she was opening it. Fortunately this type of serious allergy is rare. I think the policy in all schools should be that children are aware and respectful of all of the dietary restrictions of all the children in the classroom so everyone can participate. That means, to me, that children be sure to eat their own lunches and children with pb sandwiches wash their hands after lunch of there is a nut allergic child or if there is a severely nut allergic child who can't be around pb fumes then everyone in the class agree to refrain from pb sandwiches. It also means no ham during the Green Eggs and Ham day if there are kosher or strict muslim children in the class, no pizza parties if there are milk allergic children in the class and no turkey on thanksgiving if there are vegetarian children. I am actually being sincere about this and not snarky. One year for my ds' bday party there were two kids who--put together--had allergies to everything and I brought to school Italian ices instead of cupcakes and all the kids loved it. I think children should be taught to eat their own lunches individually and that group food should be a communal activity in which all can participate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 09:39 AM Flag
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Could the child with peanut allergy die? That seems to me to warrant some pretty strong measures by the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.15.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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