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07.06.08, 14:58 PM NY Schools
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SOOOOOOO tired of all the sour grapes G&T posts. Yes, the OLSAT is flawed, yes testing a 4 yo for Giftedness is crazy, but it is what it is. Some of us got VERY lucky and our dc had a great test day, some of us did not. Yes some of us got lucky and got our first choice school, some of us did not. Life is not always fair. it does suck but what can you do? I am just very tired of seeing all of this negative talk about schools which before placements/scores came out people were dying to send their dc to. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 07.06.08, 02:58 PM Flag
 

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A bunch of entitled people here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:00 PM Flag
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agree. so sick of the negativity. just want to be able to enjoy our good fortune. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:02 PM Flag
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haha. i'm totally unaware of the negativity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:44 PM Flag
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dc headed to anderson. we are thrilled. GL to everyone. we lucked out and are grateful. our dc is actually the kind of kid who needs differentiated education, and we are hoping the school will be great for him. It has been a long haul. I am sure there are people out there who did not have the same good fortune...those with truly gifted kids who will not have this opportunity this year. we feel for them. nonetheless, I am tired of never being able to show that I am truly happy that my kid caught a break. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:17 PM Flag
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GL! I am actually happy for the people who did well in the process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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oh, jesus. you know at age 4 your dc needs "differentiated education"? you are pathetic. truly. i really don't need you to feel for me. honest. my dc scored a 98 and will do just fine at a great gened. so eff you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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np. You sound pathetic, insecure and bitter. For some dc it is obvious even at 4 they won't be well served in a general ed classroom. I doubt you'd react this way if it was someone with a SN dc w/ an IQ of 65 saying how grateful they were for dc to get into an appropriate program. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:38 PM Flag
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no kidding [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 04:23 AM Flag
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I think it's just a few posters who simply cannot seem to "move on" because the process ended up catching them by surprise. ITA that this place has become dominated by those posters, who have created a very negative, sniping atmosphere. It will fade very soon and be replaced by the frenzy of post-Labor Day phone calls, then who is the best SB5 tester, then ongoing applications, then G&T all over again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:23 PM Flag
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I actually think the private school moms have left UB. Have never seen such a focus on public school before. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:25 PM Flag
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The private school moms will be back with a vengeance in the fall. It's always been cyclical on NY Schools, according to the admissions calendar. Maybe there's more focus on public because of the DOE's increasing centralization, plus the demographics (more public school families than ever before)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:33 PM Flag
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You should read the comments on the insideschools blog. There is a lot of DOE hate going around there. It is insane! At some point there was a woman calling others to gather at her apartment becauce NBC was supposed to come and interview about how the DOE failed them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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link please? cannot find anything of interest there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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I forgot which thread it was in but just click on the g+t or gifted and talented tag on the side and read through the comments of some of the articles. It is hilarious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:55 PM Flag
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That might have been about the pre-school fiasco, and frankly, those people had some very legitimate complaints and I think getting the media involved is a very smart move in that situation. Compared to the preschool situation, the G&T process went pretty well overall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:49 PM Flag
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Yes, I understand that part. But the tone on insideschools in general is extremely "DOE sucks". Even during the G&T process. Read some of the comments there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:58 PM Flag
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I have been reading comments there, and I have been appalled at some of the individual situations I have read about there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:01 PM Flag
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It wouldn't if everybody would just calm down and take it a few notches down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:07 PM Flag
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I don't know. I would be pretty upset if I never got my dc's score and no one from the DOE returned my calls. I don't think that happened to lots of people, but I think there were a handful of people who were VERY poorly served by this process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:09 PM Flag
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and I bet those were the most PIA parents who could not stop calling/e-mailing the DOE folks. I had to get in touch with the DOE twice and both times somebody got back to me sooner or later. And that is the key: have some f'ing patience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:11 PM Flag
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You seem really hostile. I recall a mom who posted this very story on UB. She was patient, and apparently had a private school acceptance, so she wasn't desperate, but still, that sort of thing should just not happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:15 PM Flag
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well, I am just calling it the way it is. If you feel threatened by it, I am sorry. You go andf keep the DOE busy with your complaints. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:20 PM Flag
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so true. we never tried contacting doe. just had dc tested, mailed in the form via regular mail, got our placement via courier, and voila! done. easy as pie! Could've turned out better in terms of placement, but we knew the odds going in. People are just crazy is all I can say. calling the doe about every little question and inconsistency, wringing their hands if someone doesn't get back to them immediately. I just don't know how these people live in the world with all that anxiety, anger and stress. They will not make it to age 60 with that approach. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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WTF are you talking about? The lady never even got her kid's score?! That's pretty fundamental. That's not hand wringing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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one person out of 50,000, big deal. I am sure the doe will make things right for her if her dc scored highly enough for a spot. mistakes happen. you sound like you are on overload, as well. wtf? sheesh... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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so, that is what? one out of thousands? Shit happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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np. you're not calling it like it is and you're not sorry about anythin. you're annoying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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Plus, the NBC thing was related to the G&T process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:05 PM Flag
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no one is guaranteed anything! I cannot stand all these public school moms screaming their entitlement to the rafters! some win and some lose. they need to move on! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:01 PM Flag
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I was referring to the preschool admissions process, which the DOE completely mangled. All of us are entitled to a fair and open process, with appropriate accountability when the process fails. From what I could see, that never happened with the preschool process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:03 PM Flag
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huh? The DOE fixed it eventually. They made a mistake and after they concluded that it was indeed their fault they started to work with the affected families. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:08 PM Flag
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They never accepted responsibility publicly! Instead they blamed the parents. Elected officials had to get involved to put some heat on the DOE. Come on! You can't seriously be arguing that the DOE handled the preK problems well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:10 PM Flag
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In the end they admitted that there was a problem with the sibling placement. They even gave a number how many families were impacted and they said that they would work with each family to find a solution. I have never heard anything back about the pre-K process since, i.e. it is more or less solved. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:12 PM Flag
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LOL! "more or less solved" Classic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:15 PM Flag
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ok, dear. what have you heard from those families? Did you hear anything how they are still hanging and have no place for their kids to go to come September? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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she just needs to hold onto the pain and suffering. kind of like being addicted to 12 step programs while having none of the problems they address. this woman needs to believe suffering is everywhere and extreme. blech! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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obviously, though, your kid had a good testing day... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:07 PM Flag
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So, are you saying that if your kid did not test well that day it is enough reason to blame the DOE? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:09 PM Flag
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i am saying that to test children at all is disgusting, and that all kids should have the same opportunity for education, and instead of being upset for where your children were placed, you should be upset that they all arent getting the same opportunity, regardless of race, income, district, etc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:12 PM Flag
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I agree with you somewhat. The G&T tracking is done way too early in a child's life here in NYC. As the OP said, though, it is what it is. If you hate the way it is being done you are always welcome to move somewhere else where the public education system is more in line with your thinking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:14 PM Flag
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this is my point! i dont live in nyc, i live in dubai where private schooling is the only option and is based on income. it is sick and disgusting. children should all get the same opportunities, there is enough pressure come university age, when history of schooling actually matters... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:17 PM Flag
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The thing is that the public school system is not really as bad as a handful parents claim it is. Could it be better? Of course! Is private school the only option to get your child educated? Hell, no! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:24 PM Flag
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exactly!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:26 PM Flag
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OP: Yes, she did. But she also got a 98 SB, so she is most likely a bit "gifted". We know we are VERY lucky and we are VERY happy and VERY fortunate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:41 PM Flag
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Why do you keep bragging about this still? Sorry but you sound like the Anderson parents I know who still complain the school does not challenge their geniuses enough. You need to chill. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:45 PM Flag
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op: I am not bragging. DD is going to NEST, our first choice, not Anderson. You need to chill. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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np. the nest posters are just as bad, if not worse. go enjoy your bread celebration and stfu. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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nest? and you assume the rest of us are jealous and think you're so lucky? LOL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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Hey, look everyone. Its the Nest basher again! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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NP. I'm not the NEST basher (whoever that is), but I do think it's kind of funny that OP feels sorry for everyone who didn't get in there. Maybe it's a great school, maybe not, but we didn't even rank it. It's just not for us. We felt this way after the tour btw and before the test results were announced. No sour grapes here, despite what OP seems to think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 04:52 AM Flag
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And a good choice. DC just completed K there this year. Your kid is going to have a great year. The teachers are great and all the kids seem to really enjoy themselves. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:51 PM Flag
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