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07.06.08, 08:37 AM Preschool/Kids
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There is a huge difference between giftedness and high achievers. Many of the high scoring kids are probably high achievers rather than truly gifted. Of course, only time will tell. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
Preschool/Kids 07.06.08, 08:37 AM Flag

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And you felt the need to post this why? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:43 AM Flag

In the end - there is little difference [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:45 AM Flag

ita. it's what you do with what you have. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:58 AM Flag

Time may never tell and the high achievers may do much better than those you are deeming as "truly gifted." [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:48 AM Flag

np: Exactly. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:56 AM Flag

I agree, high achievers are more focused and work harder. Gifted kids sometimes just coast on their natural abilities, which doesn't always serve them well when they get into the big bad world. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:58 AM Flag

np: well also, sometimes things are easy for them when they are younger and then when the material gets harder they haven't been used to the need to try and work so they get frustrated and can run the risk of giving up. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:00 AM Flag

np; this is the reason why the gifted community advocates for schools for the gifted, so that they are properly challenged and not take things to come easy. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:01 AM Flag

I don't know about that. 2 yo's who read the New York Times may be high achievers but they are certainly gifted. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:59 AM Flag

there are two yo's that can read the times? are the comprehending what they are reading? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:00 AM Flag

Not sure. I read about it, but even if they don't comprehend, I think it's remarkable that they can even decode all those words, don't you? [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:05 AM Flag

np: It's pointless to read material you can't understand, serves no purpose really. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:21 AM Flag

Well, but at 2yo, it does indicate intellectual ability. That kid will be able to comprehend far more than other kids when he does comprehend. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:29 AM Flag

OP: I'm not talking about any child in particular. Just the process in general. I think there is so much prepping and enrichment that the high scores reflect both giftdeness and high achievers. That's all. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:19 AM Flag

I think what they are looking for are kids with academic ability, high achievers are far easier to teach than gifted kids. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:22 AM Flag

High achiever is what you want, no? Those are the kids that will go places. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:20 AM Flag

If you are gifted and a high achiever, you will really go places. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:30 AM Flag

I have a dd going into 5th grade and she's tested as pretty darn "gifted" but she is about the furthest thing from a high achiever there is. i'm learning to readjust expectations because i don't think she's ever going to be very academically motivated. she's too into her own things. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:29 AM Flag

This is a common issue for gifted dc's. I think you should find a school that is better for your dd. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 09:31 AM Flag

HIgh achievers are likely to do well anywhere they are placed. And they will do well in later life, usually. Gifted children are at greater risk, unless they are also high achievers. Gifted children are often self-directed to the point where they dont' care about pleasing teachers. Gifted children want to study teh things that interest them, not the things they are given to study. Gifted children are used to things coming easily and resist challenges. Gifted children will coast and then suffer self esteem issues when they can't push themselves to compete or overcome difficulties. Gifted children are often precociously "moral" thinkers, and will not take the injustices in a classroom in stride. Gifted children - I have one - are a PITA. But that's why their parents and the gifted ed community thinks they need to be put together and taught in specialized ways. Because they are not shoo-ins for academic success despite their intelligence. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 12:39 PM Flag

Mine is only in 2nd grade but I think we're going to have to make the same readjustment of our expectations. It's frustrating. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 02:16 PM Flag

Both need an accelerated curriculum or they are underserved. [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 03:30 PM Flag

High achiever sounds good enough for me! [ Reply | More

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General Topics 07.06.08, 04:30 PM Flag