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07.02.08, 11:25 AM NY Schools
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The real deal on school zoning/residency: [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 07.02.08, 11:25 AM Flag
 

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A child's residence is usually the same as the residence of her parent or custodial parent. If school officials have doubts about custody or your proof of New York City residence, they can investigate (a "407 Investigation") to see if you are the child's sole caretaker or if you live where you say you do. During the investigation your child has a right to continue attending school, under the provisions of Chancellor's Regulation A-101 4.1. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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If a child's parents are separated or divorced, the child attends school where the parent who has primary custody lives. If the custody is shared, the family may determine the child's official residence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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If a parent and child live with another family or relative and do not have a lease in their own name, they may request that the leaseholder write a letter stating that they live in that apartment. The school officials may check to see if the child actually lives at the given address – and may make a home visit to see if the child has clothes and toys at that address. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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A child who is not residing with the custodial parent may be excluded from the school zoned for the area where she does live. If, for example, a student lives with her grandmother, but her father (who lives at another address) is still her parent -- meaning he is responsible for his daughter's welfare -- then his daughter does not have a right to attend the school in her grandmother's zone. Only if her father had abandoned her or was for some reason incapable of taking care of his daughter, would the grandmother's residence be the girl's residence and the place that determined her school zone. This policy was largely devised as a way to make sure that families were not letting their children move in with relatives as a way to take advantage of better schools in that zone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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Why is the student living with others? If the sole reason for living with others is to permit the student to attend a certain school or secure a transfer from his/her current school to another school for which he/she is not eligible, then the student’s residence is not established there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:32 AM Flag
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Students in grades K through 12 (not 1st grade anymore) who change residence residence within New York City are entitled to remain in their current school until completion of the terminal grade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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A student who registers or pre-registers for an elementary school must remain eligible to attend that school upon admission (first day of school). If he/she is no longer eligible to attend, the student will be transferred to a school for which he/she is eligible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:30 AM Flag
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need to find a new hobby [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:30 AM Flag
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You could say that about anyone at UB, including yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:34 AM Flag
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VERIFICATION OF RESIDENCY A. Proof of address must be provided when enrolling a student in school. The following documents may be used as proof of residency: 1. A telephone bill, cable bill, credit card bill, medical insurance card, or driver’s license is not acceptable proof of address. Proof of address may be verified by any two of the following: a. a residential utility bill (gas or electric) in the resident’s name issued by National Grid (formerly Keyspan), Con Edison, or the Long Island Power Authority (for the Rockaways) within the prior 60 days; b. documentation or letter on letterhead from a federal, state, or local government agency, including the IRS, the City Housing Authority, Human Resources Administration, the Administration for Children’s Services (ACS), or an ACS subcontractor indicating the resident’s name and address issued within the prior 60 days; c. an original lease agreement, deed or mortgage statement for the residence; d. a current property tax bill for the residence; e. a water bill for the residence; f. official payroll documentation from an employer issued within the past 60 days such as a form submitted for tax withholding purposes or a payroll receipt. A letter on the employer’s letterhead is not adequate. None of the documents listed above will suffice alone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:33 AM Flag
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Falsification and Investigation of Residency If there is a question about a student’s address or there is suspicion that a falsified address was used to register the student, the school must initiate an address verification investigation within 30 days of discovery of the problem. If it is determined that the student resides at an address that renders the student ineligible to attend his/her current school, the principal must provide the Attendance Content Expert of the ISC with the results of the investigation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:34 AM Flag
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what does completion of terminal grade mean? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 11:47 AM Flag
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The last grade of the school or program they are enrolled it. Usually 5 for elementary, 8 for ms, 12 for high school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 12:18 PM Flag
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UGH! I hate you pathetic losers! Trying to harm children at your school. It is truly pathetic. You have become vigilantes, scratching out each others' eyes for the few crumbs that exist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 02:10 PM Flag
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trying to harm kids? the lying creepy parents have to take responsibility for THEIR evil SELFISH actions. IF YOU CARE MOVE SOMEWHERE where you can send dc to a good school legitimately. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 03:12 PM Flag
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it is harming kids. I have no pony in the race, but I can distinguish raw insane aggression against dcs when I see it. you are a lunatic! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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no one forced the parents to lie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:43 PM Flag
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no, but your low level rage and behavior are disgusting. one day you will be faced with some difficulty, and when the wolves come to feed, you will hopefully remember your deeds. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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No, you can't. Not at all. Because I'm the OP and you got my motivations completely, totally wrong. Perhaps you should look inside yourself and see why you're projecting your rage onto other people. Might I suggest some nice Zoloft or maybe a Prozac? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:23 AM Flag
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Oh, tell the truth. You lied your way into a spot for dc. There's no way you'd be so worked up unless the OP hit a nerve here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:24 AM Flag
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If your child were in a classroom short on desks and books, and you knew that some of the students lived out of zone, what would you do? Send your child to school with his own chair? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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oh, you aare being hysterical. no kid is without a place to sit. you exaggerate. even if you catch some, more willl come in. you will not catch them all, and the schools will be overcrowded despite your efforts. that is the reality. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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np: In my child's middle school, they accounted for 32 students. When a 33rd was admitted, it took a while for another desk to be ordered, as well as an extra textbook, workbooks, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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middle school is a different story. people are not lying to get into crappy, overcrowded MSs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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yep. might as well keep the ones you know rather than risk a whole new crew. as long as there is a seat in a school, someone will figure out a way to fill it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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Please tell me you have a good therapist on speed dial. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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OP here. Y'all need to CALM DOWN. I am in no way advocating turning someone in. I know several families who cheated their way in, and would never say anything to anyone. It's not the child's fault, and I wouldn't want to hurt the child, no matter how I feel about the parents. However, I also have connections at the DOE. And I see lots of people here speculating on what is and isn't OK. There's no point speculating when the information is clearly out there, so I posted it to be helpful. This was geared to help people make choices, really informed choices, about methods to get their child into an out of zone school. I understand that UB is a bitchy place, so I also understand why the worst possible motives were attributed to me. But that isn't the case, so get over yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:19 AM Flag
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Welcome to UB. The craziest people are the ones who run around accusing everyone else of being crazy/aggressive/angry/nuts. You just met one of them, obviously! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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The info's out there, but I wouldn't say that the above was particularly clear. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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I found this interesting. For all the bad information out there, it is nice to have the facts. Thanks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:00 AM Flag
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