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07.01.08, 18:27 PM NY Schools
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Why are you suburban transplants so preoccupied in identifying differences between blacks and whites? I went to a predominantly black elementary and middle school, and a white HS. The truth is they were pretty much identical. There was a small group of talented students, a group of jokers/slackers, a small group of trouble makers, and the majority of kids were just average. Same experience. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 07.01.08, 06:27 PM Flag
 

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Exactly, I never attended a black school, but this was my experience. I agree it's people who were raised in segregrated suburbs posting most of these silly topics. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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ITA. It seems as if it never occured to these people that most people attend schools in close proximity to their homes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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ITA! We pick schools close to our home, but we assume they should do whatever it takes to go to schools far from theirs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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Exactly, I'm with you. Though it isn't fair to put it all on the suburbanites, there's plenty of blame to go around. The faux-elite city-dwellers, the grim SOLs, the hopeless neurotics---all polarizing in their own way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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I understand it isn't fair to label. But, the city I was raised in had a different feel. Often, I feel similar to whenever I visited New England. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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what post is this referring to? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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The one on this page, asking why so few blacks/hispanics test for G&T. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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I guess I have more options clicked. I'll check the next few pages [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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Did the schools you attended have kids from similar socio-economic backgrounds? To me, the difference lies there (and correlates to race only as socio-economic status correlates with race). Hyper-parenting is a pretty recent phenomenon, by the way. I doubt if many UB moms had that kind of upbringing, yet here we are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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No. My HS was wealthier than my elementary/middle school. But, my experience just wasn't that different. I mean style of dress, music, stupid generalizations, but the students were the same. As a matter of fact, I saw more agression and acts of violence in my HS, by far. The same with college, I attended Syracuse University. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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funny, i had the opposite experience. busing started when I was in MS. Got beat up twice in my new school that was 80% AA. several dfs got chunks of hair ripped from their heads just walking down the hall. lots of grabbing of our crotches and taunting. it was a nightmare. parents moved to a burb for HS years. mostly white, and clearly UMC nabe. no busing there. I did very well there and went on to Ivy. those years in that horrible school will be burned in my memory forever. you were lucky. many of us suffered greatly during those experimental years. media always showed the black kids not being welcomed into white schools, but I assure you it went both ways. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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I never said I wasn't welcomed in my HS. On the contrary, I was well liked, and very popular. Three of my best friends to this day are from HS. The acts of violence weren't directed towards me. They had nothing to do with race. I guess we went to school in different eras. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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I was just speaking about the fact that the idea that kids are kids is fine, but the busing years were full of other complicating tensions, and for some, it was a nightmare. On a brighter note, after 3 years of pure hell 9riots and other attacks), many of us crossed the barrier and became pretty good friends. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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But, your posts supports the belief that kids are kids. You said yourself that the black students, when they were the majority, were just as aggressive as white students in the same situation. So, I still don't really get your point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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I have no experience with white kids being aggressive in this way. i just remember news reports on tv during those years showing scared balck dcs entering all white schools with fear on their faces. but the violence against white kids being sent out of district to mostly black nabes was never shown. I am not sure that its an issue of kids being kids [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:27 PM Flag
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You don't have to experience to know that it happened. I also, have no experience with what you described, but I have to take your word for it. It was actually my experience that the white students in my elementary/middle schools integrated quite well, and the same with HS. Usually, the acts of violence were among members of the same race. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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NP: Interesting. I went to school in a mixed public system in the 60s/70s (Teaneck NJ, first town in the nation to do voluntary busing for integration). Black girls wanted to braid my hair, not rip it out. My first boyfriend was black, and black classmates gave him a hard time about being with me. My strongest memory is of an Albino girl who cornered me in 5th grade and asked if I thought she was white or black (I said her skin was white but she was black; I thought I would get beat up no matter what I said, but this seemed to satisfy her and her friends). I'm not sorry that I was part of the experiment, but I do wish we hadn't just been thrown in together without any guidance. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:28 PM Flag
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Your experience is similar to mine. I really don't buy the other posters story. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:30 PM Flag
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my story is absolutely true. I resent you denying my experience. Perhaps Detroit was a bit rowdier than Teaneck, but the story is real. You people just want to believe what you want to believe. anything that doesn't jibe with your world view gets rejected. oh well...could explain a lot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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Perhaps Detroit was. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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I'm the Teaneck poster and I don't doubt your experience, although mine was different. It's ancient history now anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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I never really thought about it until now, but I do remember black girls fighting to sit behind me to braid my hair. I had no idea at the time that we were on the cutting edge. In retrospect, I wish we had some sort of help mixing. Our schools were very mixed, but most of us self-segragated, and as we got older, it was only the white and black stoners who crossed the race line and hung out together. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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i'm not. it's never crossed my mind, frankly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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That's refreshing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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np--I think race and class are defining aspects of the United States. To say you have never considered thinking about something means, in my opinion, you are probably sitting on a lot of blind privilege. It's not refreshing to not think about race and class. It's ignorance. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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I think it's refreshing that she doesn't sit around contemplating the differences between the races. It doesn't mean she's indifferent. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:27 PM Flag
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