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06.30.08, 14:15 PM NY Schools
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The article said Collegiate won't send transcript to colleges you applied to if you went against their advice. These schools limit you to apply to only 8 colleges and won't help you if you apply to more? Why the hell are they telling the kids what to do? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 06.30.08, 02:15 PM Flag
 

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jeez. I applied to 13 ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:16 PM Flag
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I didn't know these private schools did brokering for colleges. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:17 PM Flag
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OMG yes thats how they do everything. They have huge ties to HYP and other colleges and for the top schools its like a phone conversation btw counselor and admissions [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:34 PM Flag
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yeah, right [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:35 AM Flag
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Not true at other privates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:17 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:18 PM Flag
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Get ready, it is everywhere [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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Oh yes it is. Didn't you ask these questions during the interview? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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If you did, you wouldn't be getting in. Sounds like a wacko question to ask when applying to K [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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Is that even legal for them to refuse to send a transcript to a school that you chose but they didn't? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:19 PM Flag
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If I were a C parent, I'd get a class action lawsuit going. Seems wrong to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:29 PM Flag
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You can't just make up laws to protect you from everything you don't like. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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They all limit the number you can apply to, most girls schools limit to 6 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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All the SS schools? 6 is AWFULLY few. That is shocking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:34 PM Flag
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sometimes they give you 8 but rare. boys schools allow more applications Collegiate I think 7 or 8 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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This used to be the case but pretty sure it is not any more. 6 is not really enough at all in this day and age. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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Thats not what it said, It said if you were accepted early somewhere they will not send your transcripts on to other schools for regular admission even if the ED is no binding [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:33 PM Flag
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Well, why not? If the kid doesn't want to go to that school, the kid should have the right to go somewhere else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:34 PM Flag
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Then the kid should not have applied early [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:35 PM Flag
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Because they are brokering the dcs that's why. You don't think that the collegiate and brearley applications get thrown into the same pile at the PS whatever do you? every one of those applications has been discussed by the counselor and the admissions dept and tagged. Its a long process cannot explain it here but you'll see. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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If your dc is going to TT on FA and not a legacy at HYP or whatever, is your dc not going to be told to apply to HYP, etc. by these TT counselors bec they have to cater to non-FA kids who are legacies at HYP, etc.? I wonder if my dc will be better off in senior year at a PS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:41 PM Flag
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It doesn't work that way, no, The counselors don't cater to the parents they cater to the colleges. Harvard will say 'we want x diversity, one FA, give us a scholarship student and three top As in science' [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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lolol. Is that some years they only take 1 or 2 kids and other years 5? And occassionally none at all? Hardvard is the one that gets to pick all the way. There are no quotas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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And then what if that kid decides he wants to go to his safety school which is your dcs reach school? How liberal and open to his getting several spots and taking your sons will you be then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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Well, if my kid wants to go to his safety, let him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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No you don't understand. How would you feel if your dcs reach school was that dcs saftey? The other dc gets into four schools chooses your dcs safety and your dc gets NO place. That is why they have to limit apps and have the ED policy - its like getting into preschool brokered all of it brokered [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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I want my dc to go where he wants to go. I don't expect another dc to go somewhere he doesn't want to go for my dc's sake. That is absurd. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:06 PM Flag
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brokering is BS and benefits the weak candidates. Shouldn't be allowed for preschool or college [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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This is not brokering. The kid is the one who decides to apply early decision somewhere. Pretty sure C or anyone else does not push that. And you should not apply ED unless it is your FC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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you don't get it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:56 PM Flag
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applying early admission and getting accepted is an obligation to attend. college admissions offices communicate with each other, and they do find out those bad eggs who are playing the field so to speak. collegiate is right to curb such a nasty practice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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np. ITA. And the college adviser would have made this crystal clear to the student before he applied ED. These are not little children. They make choices and need to deal with the consequences. If the school made a practice of supporting students who back out of their ED accepts people here would be shrieking about entitlement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:11 PM Flag
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nnp: Yep. And it makes the college advisor and the school look bad in the eyes of the college if kids apply ED and don't attend, so it hurts future applicants. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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Exactly. I can't believe anyone would have a beef with the school's decision in this type of situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 08:00 AM Flag
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Then why don't they make it binding? If it's binding, of course. But if they explicitly say it's not binding, then why not? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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Never mind. I'm guessing you're the type of person who wouldn't see anything wrong with sending out multiple first choice letters to preschools and ongoings. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 05:07 PM Flag
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What? You are crazy. I know first choice letter to prek or ongoings binds you morally but I have no idea if early decision is like that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:26 PM Flag
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I'm not crazy, you're ignorant. They CAN'T make it legally binding; they can't FORCE a student to attend a particular school or forbid him to attend any other schools. Think about it. Applying ED is exactly like sending a FC letter. And aside from the moral implications of breaking your word, going back on an ED acceptance screws the dc's college counselor in the same way going back on a FC letter screws your PSD. So of course the college counselors aren't going to support students who try to do that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:57 AM Flag
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hee hee hee I see all these women shaking in their boots now! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:01 PM Flag
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Stuyvesant High School limits college applications to 7. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:28 PM Flag
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BxSci has no limt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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What article are you talking about? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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some schools do this to limit competition among graduates-like one student won't take a spot over another. it was like this when I was in grad school-not a bad thing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:32 PM Flag
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It is a bad thing if you are not the dc who is legacy or star of your class and you still want to get into competitive school. You need to cast your net much wider. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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eh, so send out a resume yourself. The school does not have to hold your hand for this, does it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 08:37 AM Flag
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Whatever article this is, is completely wrong. My son just graduated from Collegiate last month and the application process is tailored individually. So while one boy might only apply to 3 schools, there were others who applied to 10 or more. And, if the boy wants to go to a school that Wendy hasn't suggested and has a good rationale for applying there, she will certainly send out transcripts and support the application in every way. It's an incredible school with an amazing college guidance department, which is part of the reason that around 35% of the class of 2008 is attending HYP next year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 11:24 AM Flag
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Key words are "good rationale". Who determines this? Sounds way too controlling for me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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Oh calm down. I applied to 5 schools (no ivies) and had a great college experience. more than 8 schools is ridiculous- children reaching too hard to satisfy their parents rather than applying to schools within their range [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:59 AM Flag
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I can understand why some weak or middling students might need to apply more broadly, but otherwise I agree with you. If the college counselor is good at helping students determine what they want and what's realistic, 8 colleges is more than enough for most kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 08:06 AM Flag
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Exactly. 8 colleges with a good range should be more than enough for almost everyone, especially if they're not trying to hold themselves to a higer standard than they can meet. A weak student shouldn't be applying to HYP with other TTs as his "safetys" - that is just stupid and poor counseling [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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