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06.26.08, 18:39 PM NY Schools
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Does anyone have experience with CTT classes? I found out my DD will be in a CTT kindergarten class next year, and am curious what that could mean. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 06.26.08, 06:39 PM Flag
 

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Was this for PS41? How did you find out? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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no, I'm in Brooklyn. Where is 41? The pre-k teacher mentioned the name of dd's K teacher, and she's described in the directory as the CTT kindergarten teacher. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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I would be bummed. so much of k is socializing, and I could imagine that aspect being problematic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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how? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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well, I am assuming that the kids who need these classes have social and learning problems. the kids in K develop strong relationships. if half the class were autistic, or impaired socially or developmentally, i would think that would impact on this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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NP: My gen'l ed DD just finished K in a CTT class and had a fantastic year. The DC who had IEPs received a range of services -- many of them needed speech therapy, some got OT for fine motor and/or sensory issues, some many have received PT, too. None of these DC were severely impaired and I don't think that any of them were autistic. I don't think that DC w/severe needs are placed in CTT. Also, the majority of DC were gen'l ed. The class was beautifully managed and had 2 full teachers (one gen'l ed, one special ed), one full-time ass't. teacher, and a full-time paraprofessional for 22 DC. I would suggest that you contact the parent coordinator at DC's school and ask to speak with a current gen'l ed parent whose DC was in the CTT K class. You might be pleasantly surprised. GL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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but if they need all those adults in the room, perhaps the kids are more needy than you think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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All of the gen'l ed classes had one teacher and one ass't. Yes, the special ed DC might need extra support, but they got it. And FWIW, all gen'l ed classes have some DC who get services. All of these DC are pulled out during the day to get the services. I can't convince anyone that CTT can work, but it worked in our DC's class. None of the gen ed parents seemed dissatisfied. I also think that K can be one of the best years to be placed in CTT b/c all of the DC are learning about how to be a part of the group. And to assume that there are more behavioral problems in CTT classes is unfair, especially at K. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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Yes, I posted below and I agree 100%. In fact, in regular classes there are always 1 or 2 kids who have behavioral issues and only 1 teacher in deal with them. In CTT, there are often no behavioral issue because all the general ed kids tend to be chosen because they are exceptionally well-behaved, and there are very few problems among the CTT kids and lots of adults to address the rare ones that come up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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Yes, OR above is right and you don't have any idea what a CTT class is, although you are "assuming". In CTT, only 8 kids have IEPs (they aren't "special ed") and you often don't even know who they are. You get a much smaller teacher/child ratio (2 teachers), and often a paraprofessional as well. My kid was in a CTT class one year and it was fine. Lots of time the non-CTT kids are they best in the school so there's lots of so-called peers if you are worried about that as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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Thanks, from OR. Plus in K, I really think that you don't have to worry -- the more adults to help with transitions, individual attention, the better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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if you can't tell who they are, then why don't the parents mainstream them like they did in my day? cannot see taking a kid with a mild speech delay and putting him in spec ed class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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They basically are mainstreamed. The majority of kids in the class are general ed, the curriculum is the same. They have an extra teacher who is trained in special ed to provide extra help, that's the main difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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Mom of a CTT student here, and this is a good description [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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You are so off the mark here. As the mom of a SN DC you have no idea what you are talking about. If a child was autistic or needed that much support or could not function in a large class you bet they would not be in a CTT class. Why would we subject our child to that when they clearly could not handle it. We want the best setting for our child to learn as much as you dol. Such as a self contained class or special ed private school. My child actually is pretty typical and extremely social has lots of typical friends as well as SN friends. He is in a CTT class for that bit of extra support and peer modeling. Mostly speech modeling. Don't get your panties in a bunch my kid will not bring yours down! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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uh huh sure he wont [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 08:10 PM Flag
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omg i was just talking about this earlier today. its a possibility for my dc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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I have heard many stories of people who had wonderful experiences in CTT. However, I have to say that our experience this year has been horrendous. Most of the SN kids were wonderful, but unfortunately, we had a few who ended up being real behavioral problems, and pretty much sucked up almost all of the teachers' time for the entire year. Dc survived since she is very bright, well-behaved, and the type who can advocate for herself (and hence was perfect gen ed kid for CTT), but it was a wasted year for her. Will be doing enrichment over the summer to make up for the academics she did not get this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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What grade was DC in? This is part of why I think it's better to be in CTT class in early years, rather than 4th or 5th. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 08:55 PM Flag
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2nd [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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If it's any consolation, DC probably won't be placed in a CTT class again. At least that's how it works at our school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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I know she won't. I spoke to the principal about it, and she agreed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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