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06.26.08, 16:09 PM New York City
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Am I wrong? I pay my nanny on the books. This involves buying worker's compensation insurance and disability insurance. She hurt herself while at work and wants me to pay all of her medical bills. She doesn't want to file under worker's compensation because despite my paying on the books, she hasn't been filing an income tax return. I refuse to pay the medical bills. Am I being unreasonable? TIA. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
New York City 06.26.08, 04:09 PM Flag
 

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You're right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:11 PM Flag
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the fact that she's even bringing this up would not sit well with me. It speaks to her character. She's not only stealing from the government by not filing taxes, she also wants to steal from you by asking you to cover something she's responsible for. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:36 PM Flag
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I think you are responsible for an employees medical bills if they are hurt on the job. If I was hurt at work, I would insist that my company pick up the full tab for my medical treatment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:17 PM Flag
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She has workers comp - that is what it is for [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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Will Workers Comp cover the medical bills? Or only her salary while the time she is out of work because of her injury? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:24 PM Flag
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When I got it it covered the medical bills [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:27 PM Flag
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I didn't know that workers comp would cover medical bills. I thought it was for time out of the office, and health insurance was for the medical bills. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:29 PM Flag
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No, in fact health insurance will not pay it if they believe that workers comp should cover it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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np: Yes. For some reason, my DS's ER trip got coded as "worker's comp" - it took months for insurance to agree to pay for it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:33 PM Flag
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I think there's different kinds of "hurt on the job" though. It's one thing if our job involves heavy machinery and the risk of being injured exists, but if you drop a heavy file and break your toe at the office, your employer pays that medical bill? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 05:29 PM Flag
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Say that you will cover whatever the insurance won't cover. (over and beyond) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:24 PM Flag
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OP: Workers Compensation should cover the entire cost of treatment. But she won't file. I bought the insurance so that I wouldn't face a huge financial risk by employing someone in my home. I can't just agree to cover her medical bills without limit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:26 PM Flag
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If insurance pays for lost wage and medical bills, you shouldn't pay any other. Personally, I would fire an employee that is so unethical that she won't pay taxes. It's illegal not to pay taxes and why would you hold onto someone who does illegal things? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:30 PM Flag
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OP: I didn't know until now that she wasn't filing. I pay A LOT more in order to pay on the books (higher salary, payroll taxes, etc) and I have the cost of a payroll service. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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I think you should fire her ass. Not paying taxes is really bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:38 PM Flag
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I don't know how workers' comp works, but if it pays all her medical bills plus lost wages for time lost at work, then too bad for her if she's not filing her taxes. That's a choice she made. You shouldn't have to pay twice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:25 PM Flag
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OP: Workers Comp should cover the medical costs. She has disability insurance for potential lost wages at work. But she wasn't actually out of pocket. She called me when she hurt herself. I paid her for that day and the following day. After that, she returned to work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:28 PM Flag
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np: What kind of medical bills does she have then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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She cut her hand while washing dd's dishes. She went to the ER, had an x-ray and MRI, needed stitches, went to a hand specialist, and will need a half day to get the stitches removed (I will pay her for that half day). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:34 PM Flag
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Christ. Well, whatever happens, I'd fire her - you have been paying thousands of extra dollars and she's been lying to you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:37 PM Flag
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then you are 100% in the right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:35 PM Flag
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ITA!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:43 PM Flag
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If you really don't want to lose her, pay the medical bills BUT you have to require her to pay her income tax - make sure you will let her go if she doesn't comply. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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That's the nanny's problem, not OP's problem though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:34 PM Flag
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When I freelanced for my company, I had to sign a contractor's agreement in which I was responsible and not the company for paying taxes. My coworker used that agreement with the nanny. Anyway, bad idea to hold onto an employee who's "hiding from the law." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:41 PM Flag
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I am with you. You're not responsible for paying when she refuses to file for WC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:33 PM Flag
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as an aside, isn't she an idiot not to file, if you're paying taxes for her? won't the irs pick up on that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:37 PM Flag
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You waaaaay overestimate the efficiency and organization of the government. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:38 PM Flag
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nah. they picked up on minor errors of mine twice and it cost me a ton of $$. when it comes to picking our pockets, they can be amazingly proficient. too bad we can't merge them with the DMV! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:41 PM Flag
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Also, nanny probably deserves a refund, so the IRS really doesn't care [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:42 PM Flag
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np: Not if OP didn't withhold taxes for the nanny. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:44 PM Flag
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Sorry, I thought she said she had [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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No, I think she's just been paying the employer's part of it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:52 PM Flag
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All they need to do is run a search on the nanny's SS# or taxpayer ID # and see if she claimed the income. Pretty simple. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:42 PM Flag
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dh used to consult for the irs right after graduate school-they go after the little guy more frequently (or used to). i forget the logic-something like word of mouth of how bad process is if you get caught as an incentive not to cheat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 05:06 PM Flag
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She's definitely taking the risk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 04:41 PM Flag
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sorry about your situation. it's so unfair that you take the high road and cover all the legitimate expenses and then she takes advantage. you probably feel cheated. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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