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06.25.08, 16:50 PM NY Schools
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Anderson moms - what did you think about orientation? I found the diversity pretty interesting - I find it very hard to believe they randomly picked those kids out of all the 99s. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 06.25.08, 04:50 PM Flag
 

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PS - don't get me wrong - I am thrilled with the diversity, just very surprised. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 04:51 PM Flag
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ITTTTTA. No way they randomly picked. There seemed to be a large Queens contingent too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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Off tangent, but Queens and Brooklyn warrant their own (accelerated) citywide school. DOE, are you listening? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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yes, I think it is ridiculous that these people would commute to uws. even more ridiculous that they depleted so many of the spots that kids from the nabe and across town could've taken. doe: get them their own k-8 G&T school!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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Oh give me a freaking break. They have not depleted anyone, and unlike the D2/D3 kids some of them have absolutely no district options! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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well, doe should develop programs in these districts then. a citywide should not be a garbage pail for districts with no schools or resources. means the few with means at these schools will be supporting everything else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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np. Keep digging that hole. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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I actually believe everything I am saying, and although i understand what you mean by the hole you think I am digging myself into, I don't feel its a problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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Of course. People like you never do see the problem with your thinking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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and people like you see a problem with anything that isn't 100% pc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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gotta say I live in one of "those districs." Can't afford private, but I pay more rent than most people in a rent restricted apartment on the UWS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:27 PM Flag
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lol! comapring to someone with rent control is silly. my aunt in idaho pays more for her trailer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:29 PM Flag
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np. I don't care about 100% PC. But there's a sane middle ground between 100% PC and the crap you're posting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 10:50 PM Flag
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what????? garbage pail???? my dd earned eligibility with her 99 just as did everyone else who had a 99 in the city--- my nyc taxes support ALL nyc schools just as yours do--the fact that a district has no g&t program has little to do with the resources in the district. in district 10, there are no g&ts because of a recent schools superintendent (Irma Zadoya) who didn't believe in gifted programs - and just because i'm not from manhattan doesn't mean i don't have "means"--- you're gross [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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You are incredible. This is public school. Every tax payer in the city supports these schools. Hence they are open to all. By the way, there are high HHI outside of Manhattan, just as there are low HHI on your island too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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high hhi folks are not snding their kids on a 3 hr commute daily for public school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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Wrong. As a matter of fact, they are probably the ones who can wrangle a way to actually do that commute. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:56 PM Flag
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seriously doubt it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:23 PM Flag
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I know people who are doing this. Sorry to burst your bubble. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:31 PM Flag
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Who else can take the time to spend all day going back and forth and back and forth on a train to pick their kid up? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:29 PM Flag
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the unemployed? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:29 PM Flag
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I have seen plenty of posts on this board from people who can afford 30K a year for K who wanted a G&T "free" spot. Why wouldn't someone from queens who could do the same not want to put that away for college or opportunities? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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because it is a terrible commute. I have also seen people on UUWS choosing NEST. Are they insane? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:31 PM Flag
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Insane? No. Going the distance for what they perceive as a better education that their other choices? Yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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lunacy! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:38 PM Flag
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Exactly how do your means support this school? What makes you think someone in Queens can't make as much as you do, but does not want to blow it all on rent or over inflated co-op or condo? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:17 PM Flag
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you have a great imagination. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:22 PM Flag
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Excuse me, but that is not what I meant. They have every right to attend any citywide school -- hence the name. But it is ridiculous that they have to commute that far to get to an accelerated program. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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You freakin' freak! These people? You are a pig. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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Impossible to reply to the intended poster; the placement is all screwy. I'm talking to the freakin' freak up the page, whom said 'these people" You make white smell SO bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:59 PM Flag
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Freaky, not from NYer please return to whatever crazy urb you oozed from. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:28 PM Flag
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well, since Anderson is citywide, and more people from other districts and boroughs tested than in previous years, it makes sense that the citywides are more diverse than the district G&Ts (some of which are very white, others more kids of color). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 04:54 PM Flag
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I thought it was really nice. The incoming parents all seem normal and down to earth. I like that there are parents from 4 out of 5 boroughs. I'm sorry that dh and I have to miss the cocktail hour tonight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:35 PM Flag
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Let me guess - Staten Island? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:07 PM Flag
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right. because only white dcs are smart. honestly, you anderson moms are complete and utter a$$holes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:37 PM Flag
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I don't think that was what OP meant. It just seemed very balanced ethnically, geographically, old/young birthdays. Just not gender balanced. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:40 PM Flag
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so what? that can't happen by chance? they have to cherry-pick the non-white dcs because there are so few of them they otherwise wouldn't beat the odds? op disgusts me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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np: wow, I don't think that OP meant anything bad about her comment. The diversty was great. Out of 447 99's, it is hard to believe that the class was this diverse. Get off her back! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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huh? she said there's no way they randomly picked them. are you as much of an idiot as she is? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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np: Isn't it odd that they would balance for everything else but not for gender? I find it odd. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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how do you know there were 477 99s? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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So you and your OP friend can pretend not to be Starbucks dates and bigot buddies-but Oh Please. If you aren't that yet, you will be- by the 1st week of September. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:35 PM Flag
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Don't judge all Anderson moms by the OP. I was there and I am appalled by the comment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:42 PM Flag
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i don't understand. minority dcs don't have the same odds as white dcs? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:39 PM Flag
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you're right. they carefully screened every family, determined to pick one of every size, shape and persuasion and you are the lucky douchebag representative. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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I was there, and I agree with your observations. Was discussing this with DH tonight. I think the DOE is actually trying to make it a true citywide school. Granted, they still need to work on issues, like providing bus transportation from Brooklyn, Queens & the Bronx. But I also have a hard time believing that the mix was random. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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if it's not, the doe should be sued. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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For what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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for not choosing dcs blindly by lottery as they claimed they would do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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If you recall, they never stated that officially or publicly. They "leaked" it in private, one off conversations. You'll never be able to provide any evidence that they committed to a blind lottery officially. I wish they were more transparent. But they weren't and this is precisely why they weren't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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wait, you're saying they didn't officially announce it was a blind lottery because they wanted to make sure all ten of the smart black dcs in the five boros got into anderson? you suck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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There's no point in engaging with you. I'm done. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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How do they even know which kids are AA? It was never asked on the application. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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not that many AAs, although there are some. the diversity is more asian/indian. just way less white than predicted here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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psst. asians are smart. take a look at hunter hs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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And Stuyvesant and MIT and... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:32 PM Flag
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^^^But, I should say that to many people, diverse means black and Hispanic as well as white and Asian. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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no one here is arguing that non white kids are not smart. its that anderson seems very divers when you compare it to district G&Ts in similar nabes. that is interesting. got it? no one is dissing your kid! sheesh! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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np - But Anderson is a citywide and district G&Ts reflect their specific zone & neighborhood. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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yes, so it proves that smarts come in all colors. you just don't see diversity in D2 or D3 because the diversity kids in these nabes go private or to local gen ed. I find that interesting, and am very happy to have dc start anderson in the fall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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Or to Hunter of course... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:04 PM Flag
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np. It would be very simple for the OLSAT tester to make a note of any visible diversity when they meet the dc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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a$$hole. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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Wow, that was totally uncalled for. Could we please keep this civil? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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call me crazy, but i think calling minorities stupid is pretty uncivil. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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Before you jump to conclusions, my own kid happens to be one of those minorities. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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you're calling your own kid stupid? wow. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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NP: Where are you even getting this from? Neither the OP nor the OR has said anything of the kind. ALL THE KIDS SCORED A 99. All OP and OR are saying is that it didn't seem like a RANDOM LOTTERY. I tend to think myself that it was, but I can also see where it might seem like it wasn't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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do you not hear yourself? ALL THE KIDS means tons of whites and two dcs of color if it was necessary to rig the lottery! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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Now I've totally lost what you're saying. What are you saying? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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i'm saying you're a f&cking racist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:27 PM Flag
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LOL - you have no idea. But please, tell me why you think so. I can't quite figure out where you get the "ALL THE KIDS means tons of whites and two dcs of color" statement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:31 PM Flag
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seriously, are you stupid? why else would they want to rig the lottery if they didn't want to give dcs of color an advantage? you're not just a racist, you're a stupid racist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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WTF is your problem? I'll repeat - ALL THE KIDS SCORED A 99. No one kid was smarter than another. What is your problem with this statement? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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you are an idiot. i repeat. an idiot. there would be no reason to rig the lottery if there were plenty of smart non-whites. but there are plenty of smart non-whites. thus, no need to rig the lottery. what part of this crystal-clear explanation don't you understand, dumba$$? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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minority means that there are fewer of them than the majority population. hence, minorities make up a smaller proportion of the pool. if there are more kids at a given school relative to their percentage of the total pool, one wonders if there was some sort of balancing for diverity. could be luck of the draw or not. now do YOU get it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:02 PM Flag
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NP: asian and south asian (indian) kids make up quite a large part of the 5 boroughs' population, as do jews, who are a minority. What's to wonder about? There are a lot of well-prepared, bright asian, south asian and jewish kids in NYC. Look at the makeup of coveted high schools like Stuyvesant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:22 PM Flag
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not sure its just about being bright in these groups you mention. I think there is a strong culture of pushing and prepping that prevails within them. seems to work, so godspeed! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:49 PM Flag
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oh and there were anumber of AAs too. i have to say that I love it. My dc will get a great education for free, and be part of a diverse community. thank you joel klein! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:27 PM Flag
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By any chance, did you skip the part of my post where I wrote "I tend to think myself that it was (a random lottery)"? So I agree with you. But for some reason, you are so full of rage that you don't make any sense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:03 PM Flag
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Do we know the breakdown of 99s according to ethnicity? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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Of course not. DOE never asked for that info. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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Robin Aronow email said 477 (or something like that) 99's [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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Okay then, how do we know Anderson's incoming class does ont reflect the breakdown of ethnicities for the 99% scorers? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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how do you know how many 99s there were? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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I can tell you with absolute certainty that the lottery for Anderson was ENTIRELY random. It was computer generated by an outside vendor per request by the DOE. OSEPO and DOE didn't even have the names until about the time that we did. Entirely random and that is why the Anderson admin and teaching staff (and maybe PA?) aer being so hostile towards the new families. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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why would that make them hostile towards new families? seems they would want to welcome the cash cow with open arms, and keep their kvetching to behind closed doors among administration only. PA should not be involved at all! they need these new parents to run their show. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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ignore the troll!!!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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Everybody was on best behavior today but the back room buzz is pretty nasty. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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you are a troll, and it is nasty. probably dying for a spot at anderson. any way, even if it were true, which I doubt very much, it would not matter. these kids are the kids they are charged to care for and educate. if they do poorly in this task, or if they are not welcoming and inclusive because they feel they lost a battle, then the school will ultimately fail. people will not feel like contributing, and the school will have financial difficulty. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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^^^also, if the kids are not what they wanted, they will just have to work hard to get all those 99s up to par. woe is them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:06 PM Flag
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The OR is a fake. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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I have heard that the PA moms are awful. they get in everyone's business, nose around the office, check up on how different kids are doing, and talk behind closed doors alright. they think the school is theirs, and they only want who they want in the club. I would not send a kid to anderson if my life depended on it. If i were brian Culot, I would put some reigns on the parent body there. he doesn't yet realize (too young and inexperienced) that these people are the ones who can wreck the school, not the incoming families who were not approved by the hens. they need to just thank the stars that their kids are getting a good education, and stop the nonsense. every kid who gets a spot there deserves it as much as the next kid, regardless of whether they were picked by random lottery or some other method. they all performed up to the standard required, and most will do very well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:18 PM Flag
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Bottom line: you don't have a kid at Anderson. Where is your "expert knowledge" coming from? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 10:06 PM Flag
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know many of them, and live in the nabe. like I said, the lotto for an anderson spot is the right thing. look at this post. it yielded a nice, smart diverse group coming into K,and there is nothing the cronies of anderson should be up in arms about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.26.08, 03:25 AM Flag
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someone didn't get in? perhaps,you? wow! the bitterness adn jealousy will push people over the edge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 11:17 PM Flag
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