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06.22.08, 15:18 PM NY Schools
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Did anybody turn down PS. 11 G&T spot? I turned down and now I feel like I should have accepted. Do you think district G&Ts are as good as citywide? As far as this year. scores are higher. Will it be better program with smart peers? Any current of incomong PS 11 parents are on? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
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not as 'advanced' as citywide, but more than gen ed. It's a great school, nice diversity but that will probably all change now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 03:28 PM Flag
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why not? LL is even better than Nest. that's the reason many people choose LL over NEST. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 03:29 PM Flag
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I don't think LL is better than NEST...people think it's better but I think it has to do with it's UES location and the hype created by UESers [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 03:30 PM Flag
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Look at the test score, you will know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 03:34 PM Flag
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Oh, LL definitely has better reputation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 03:35 PM Flag
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LL is really NOT better than NEST. Not in what's offered or how they use their space or the population. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:16 PM Flag
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ITA. We toured LL and was not impressed at all. LL has high score that is because it is popular for its location. School itself is not all that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:56 PM Flag
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are you impressed by Nest? by what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:02 PM Flag
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Better facility! Has their own building. LL is tooo congested. Wait, let's talk about PS.11 here. That is OPs concern. I heard it is up and coming nice school. Peer gorup should be as same as LL. Because of the location(chelsea), who choose 11 are downtown people vs LL, uptown. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:06 PM Flag
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to be honest. I am so surprised by the community of Nest and decided to put it lower choice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:08 PM Flag
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What does that mean? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 05:14 PM Flag
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LL is no better than downtown non G&T schools: 41/234/89 -- all have the same program as LL and same quality kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:22 PM Flag
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LOL!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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what did you turn it down for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:02 PM Flag
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we feel ps9 is better than nest, and ranked it 2nd after anderson [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:03 PM Flag
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I also Learned lots of negative things from people I know. do not understand why here people like NEST. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:27 PM Flag
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np: It all depends on what are you looking for. NEST is very good for certain type of child, LL is kind of opposite in that it's one of the most progressive public schools and definitely G&Ts out there. There are kids that will do well either way but many do better with one or the other. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:57 PM Flag
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You are talking about D#. PS 11 is in D2. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:09 PM Flag
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Sorry meant to say D3. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:10 PM Flag
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where is dc going instead of PS 11 G&T? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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Why turned it down? I listed it as 5th choice. anyway, it is a fine school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:25 PM Flag
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OP: Did you get PS 11 G&T then? We are sending DC to local public and applying TT next fall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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we got 2nd choice. my point is even we get the 5th choice. we still accept it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 04:59 PM Flag
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we decided we preferred gen ed to ps11 as well. everyone has different opinions and diff options [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:11 PM Flag
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I agree with you. also because I do not have decent gen ed. G/L to you for applying to TT next fall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 05:49 PM Flag
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Is there current PS 11 G&T moms on? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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which general ed? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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OP: We took PS 234 gen ed. and turned 11 G&T down. But I feel G&T has better peers for DC. Well, too late. We will see how it goes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 05:45 AM Flag
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you made a great choice. you have no idea what the peers in G&T are like based on the results of one test. Your kid will be in a class with plenty of other kids who either scored as well or could have scored as well -- and they'll be neighborhood friends and you won't have to schlep up to chelsea every day. bravo! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 06:00 AM Flag
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NP: I did way too much research during this process, and actually looked at the breakdown of 3s and 4s at a bunch of schools, including 234. 234 is really impressive, comparable to G&Ts in terms of how well all it's students do, which says something about the quality of teaching (as well as something about the student body). I think you did the right thing, as it's probably closer to your house as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 06:54 AM Flag
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big reason the scores at 234 are so high is because most parents are highly educated, have $$ and hire tutors. that does not mean it's not a great school with great peer group though. just keep that in mind -- there's a lot of compensation made for TERC. Ditto at 89. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 07:31 AM Flag
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I think you are right. Based on the ranking for only Manhanttan schools: P.S. 234 Independence School ranking No13, while P.S. 11 William T. Harris School ranking No35. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 07:04 AM Flag
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Hijack: are these published rankings? I just crunched DOE numbers (hi, I'm a dork). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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YES. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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But 11 really turned around in the past 2 years or so. The strong G&T classes haven't even gotten to the age for state testing yet. Plus you can't single out G&T scores from gen ed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 08:01 AM Flag
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you are right. The score is the mixture of G&T and Gen ed for ps 11. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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Yes but what I was looking at was specific. The number of children scoring 4s in a given school. 234 has a very high number--better I think than 11--that's your peer group right there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 09:57 AM Flag
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^^OR btw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 09:58 AM Flag
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we accepted but are having second thoughts. i'm not sure it's any better than a good gen ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 08:47 AM Flag
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Those published score is for gen ed plus G&T. PS11 as #35 is not valid information to evaluate their G&T score. PS 11 is up and coming school with wonderful writing and music program. Strong peer group. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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and small class size, excellent staff with a remarkable principal, great facility and the most important thing for us -- a real environment with a truly diverse population that reflects the city my dcs live in. We are very happy to be there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 04:36 PM Flag
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