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06.21.08, 16:42 PM NY Schools
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just curious. UNIS or LL, if money is not the problem. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 06.21.08, 04:42 PM Flag
 

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I really like the international focus at UNIS and while LL is a good school, with the 90 sib cutoff, I don't think the peer group will be much better than UNIS> [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:45 PM Flag
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do you think there are lots of siblings in LL? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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I would think so now that cutoff for sibs is only 90. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:51 PM Flag
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LL admin says only 4-5 sibs this year [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 06:24 AM Flag
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there isn't that much difference among kids with those scores. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:52 PM Flag
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the difference between 90 and 99 is huge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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not if tested at age 4-5, but you can keep thinking this if you'd like [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:55 PM Flag
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np; there are some kids who don't test well at 4yo, but those who do (and there are many who are mature enough) get 99 are smart - if done with no prep. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:00 PM Flag
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And so are the 90s. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:01 PM Flag
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Assuming no prep and comparing apples to apples (mature ones vs mature ones, not the ones who had a bad day which does happen, especially with Olsat), a class full of 90's and a class full of 99's will have some difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:05 PM Flag
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not really-tests aren't validated for these ages, so both sets of kids may be equally "gifted, " but you won't know for 3-4 yrs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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The OLSAT hasn't been validated for 4 yos but the WPPSI/ERB has. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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unless this was recently, not true. and we are talking different tests [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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Sorry to sound so confused, but which part isn't true? And what tests are you talking about if not the OLSAT and WPPSI? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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Prep only goes so far. Lots of kids who prepped did not score 99. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:07 PM Flag
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actually that isn't true. event he ERB says it isn't. NYC kids tend to be precocious on certian things and may test much higher at 4 than at 7. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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UNIS has a more interesting, eclectic peer group, but non necessarily a more academic peer group. UN families do not have to test to get in. In some cases (long posts) they are virtually guarenteed admission. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 09:51 AM Flag
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LL ends in middle school, right? UNIS goes through high school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:06 PM Flag
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LL is K-5 only [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:25 PM Flag
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lots of dcs want to go to TT or Hunter for high school, not 3rd tier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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But very few will actually make it, maybe 5-6 every year. Unless your kid is a star odds are not great. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 06:37 AM Flag
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I love UNIS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:09 PM Flag
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Absolutely UNIS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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why UNIS? it is just 3rd tier? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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You need to get over the whole tier thing. First of all, UNIS isn't like other schools and doesn't really fit into that whole schema. Second, it's an excellent academic environment where dc can get the IB curriculum, it has what must be the most diverse student population of any school in the city, it goes from K-12, has amazing facilities. LL is a terrific public school, but the only thing it has going for it over UNIS is that it's free. And if OP says money isn't a problem, then UNIS wins hands-down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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LL definitely has smarter kids than 3rd tier private. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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ITTTA! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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UNIS essentially track its students based on ability. Some students do a full IB curriculum but others do not. Of those that do, some do higher level coursework and some do not. If OP's dc is that smart, she's looking at a full IB program with higher level coursework. The intelligence of the peer group won't be a problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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what is IB? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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International Baccalaureate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:37 PM Flag
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I went to UNIS through 8th grade. Granted, a long time ago, but unless something major has changed, was a great experience. I speak French and had a better sense of the greater world when I got to college than many of my peers. If I had to send my kid to private school (and if I had the money) it would be there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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Where did you go to HS? Why leave UNIS? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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Because we didn't have money and the cost shot up for high school. I was sad to leave, but went to Bronx Science and had a different kind of good experience. I'm still friends with some UNIS folks, but there was definitely the element of the "diplobrats" that it was probably good I got away from. We were one of the very few UWS families there back then (this was a long time ago, when the UWS was considered slummy by a lot of the families I went to school with, and we could never return invitations to the Hamptons or Switzerland or whatever. So it was good that I went to public school for high school and got a bit of a perspective. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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Veering away from UNIS but did you like Bronx Sci? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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I did. I mean, high school is a tough time for most people and I was no exception, but I met some of the best friends and most decent humans at Science than anywhere since. Smart, yes, of course, but also good people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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unis takes all the UN kids (no erbs for un kids) and they stay for max of 4 yrs. my dd's best friend is leaving from UNIS next year, just because of that i will stick with a school where at least kids are not expected to be leaving all the time. at elementary school level, def LL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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How did the kids become friends? I think it would be great to keep in touch with people around the world. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 07:34 AM Flag
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if you look a the stats, the school has a lot less turnover than you think......school will provide them if you ask. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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UNIS has barely higher attrition than good public school, which is about 10% every year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 06:38 AM Flag
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UNIS kids will not be on the same level as LL kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:29 PM Flag
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I know I'm going to get trashed for saying this, but there's so much more to a school experience than the "level" of the student's peers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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I agree with you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 07:32 AM Flag
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thanks. I guess I don't understand being so precise about the "element" your child will be socializing with. IMHO, you can learn a lot from people who may not be academically exactly where you are. Most people have something to offer. My best friend from high school (still my best friend) was an average student, while I was above average. But she taught me so much about people and the way the world works. I'd be bereft without that kind of education. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 03:59 PM Flag
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In which way? There will be more of a range at UNIS, but since they track (unlike LL) it will not slow down your dc. And there is far more diversity at UNIS than at LL, of all kinds. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.23.08, 06:39 AM Flag
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