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06.13.08, 05:57 AM NY Schools
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Based on the post below and the chart on Insideschools, D3 and D2 have the highest proportion of 99s. When you consider that those districts also have the strongest district programs, you really have to wonder about whether a district-blind lottery for the citywides is the most appropriate way to assign seats at the citywides. 99s in other districts have fewer options if they don't get a citywide seat. Thoughts? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 06.13.08, 05:57 AM Flag
 

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I have to agree. I live in district 1. We only had 29 kids score 97 and above my son being one of them. We also have only 2 district options. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:09 AM Flag
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what are your district options? We live one block out of D1, actually if we were on the other side of the block we would be in D1. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:12 AM Flag
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the only real option is ps110. they added ps19 this yr. but I hear bad things [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:23 AM Flag
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It would make more sense to have one strong k-8 G&T school (not program) in each borough [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:21 AM Flag
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Just because D3 and D2 have good K-5 "programs" which allow for enrichment only, within other schools does not mean they should not have equal access to K-8 or K-12 gifted schools which allow for enrichment and some acceleration. Yes, there should be more options available in all boroughs, but D3 and D2 shouldn't be penalized either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:25 AM Flag
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honestly I disagree with you on that. I am the OR in Dist 1. If I had the choices of D2 or 3 I wouldn't feel that my whole life depends on my son getting into nest.D2 has 10 options. Sorry but it really should be a blanced act. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:28 AM Flag
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But look at the size of the district and the number of kids qualifying. Each individual child in D2 or D3 has no better chance of getting into a good program than your D1 child. In D3 only two of the district options are decent ones and they have just taken one class away from one of them. This means that likely 98s and 97s will be closed out of the top programs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:30 AM Flag
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OP: The whole point is that the current system provide UNEQUAL access and fewer opportunities for kids who live outside of these districts. In a world of scarce resources, tough decisions have to be made. It's amazing the difference in opportunities available to kids from outside those districts compared to what D3 and D2 have. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:28 AM Flag
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I agree 100% [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:33 AM Flag
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Not when you factor in number of kids. D2 and D3 represent roughtly one third of the qualifying kids for citywide. If they get that type of representation in the 175 or so spots for Anderson and Nest then 61 kids will get in representing 18% of the qualifying kids in those districts. District 1 represents roughly 3% of qualifying kids, which means about 5 kids will get in--representing 17% of qualifying kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:35 AM Flag
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OP: But if the lottery is done blindly, which is what we have heard through informal channels has happened, there is no guarantee of any fair representation in the citywides from outlying districts. It is pure chance. It might happen. Or it might not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:40 AM Flag
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can't reply to OP post below, but while you are right that "chance" may impact that (as well of course as those who chose to submit forms and in fact D2 and D3 are probably likely to have more people who will opt out due to private or other options) it is likely that it will be proportionately representative of the qualifying percentage of the districts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:43 AM Flag
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OP; We shall see. The fact remains that the access & opportunities are totally skewed in favor of the wealthy Manhattan neighborhoods. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:50 AM Flag
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as they are in every district in the country, and as they should be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 12:40 PM Flag
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How about having a citiwide in one of the other boroughs? Some children are denied the opportunity because of the lengthy commute. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:35 AM Flag
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OP: I think each borough should have the equivalent of a citywide program that is accessible to kids in that borough. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:38 AM Flag
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Then Anderson, TAG and Nest should then only be Manhattan based? If you are going to put them in multiple boroughs you need to open them up like Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech and Sty [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:44 AM Flag
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No I think citywide should mean citywide, but if there is one in Brooklyn or Queens it would give children who live in thouse boroughs another alternative to a 2 hour commute. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 06:57 AM Flag
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OP: Agreed. All of the citwides should remain open to kids from all 5 boroughs. But as a practical matter, lots of kids in Queens & Bklyn have no viable citywide option, even if they score high enough to get a seat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 07:00 AM Flag
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This is why at elementary level focus should be on district programs, IMO. It's not good for 5 yos to commute 2 hours a day, it is a huge strain on their families to accomodate this (especially if there are other children in different schools). Have city-wide programs for MS/HS kids where kids are old enough to commute alone and utilize commute for reading/HW etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 07:04 AM Flag
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Speak for yourself, will you? There are enough folks out there who don;t think it puts a huge strain on their families or that a long commute is bad for a 5yo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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My 5yo has commuted for the last three years and more than anything it has given us a fantastic opportunity to talk without any distractions that exist at home or at the park. SO don't generalize. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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