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06.11.08, 18:03 PM NY Schools
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Just received ERB score today. It took 4 weeks+. Score is 97. Is this considered good enough score for Dalton or Trinity? I know ERB is not everything - However I want to start looking schools based upon the score. Thank you. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
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here we go again. trinity does not select on scores. a far more interesting mix of criteria. dalton is big on scores so 99s have a better chance. that being said, if you, as a family, offer something they want, the score is good enough. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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Still awaiting a score here. But connected psd said forget about Dalton unless you have a 99. You won't seriously be looked at with lower unless you have that whatever something they need. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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97 is considered lower? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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Please, I don't know one dc who had a 99 who got into Dalton. 95+ are pretty much equal it is the other factors that make a difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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What are you talking about? 99 and got into Dalton and know several others (well, from UB posts) in same sit'n. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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I am just saying that a 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 all have about an equal chance. I know 99s who did not get in and 95s who did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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Of course 95+ is all good scores. Though, sibs do count, diversity counts, etc, prek report counts, child visit (Dalton's own eval of the kid) counts big... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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Don't forget the parent evaluation & I don;t believe the UB rumors. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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Yep, and don't listen to "all you need is money" either. One mom told me at the welcome party that she likes the parents and how down to earth they are. Except for some, most people were dressed normally and not looking $$. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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I only know of 3 kids who got into Dalton this fall including our own and all had 99s. Of course, I have no idea of the ERB scores of the other kids who were admitted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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Age also matters. If you have an older child, 97+ is probably good if you have a young one (and particularly a summer one) it better be a 99 if you want a second look [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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OP: DC's birthday is fall. Do you mean my DC is considered older child? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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IT won't rule you out but there will be hundreds of 97's applying... Trinity is mostly about connections. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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How many applicants did Dalton have this year? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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I read somewhere (can't remember which article) about 1000 applicants. More than half were sibs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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More than 500 are siblings? I can't believe it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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oh sorry, i meant more than half sibs accepted, not applied [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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sibs and legs had a great year this year. there had been some discontent/fallout from the anti sib policy of previous years. babby owed them and was pushed to give in this year to quiet the powers that be among the parent body [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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OP: We can offer diversity(half white, half AA). Is this a plus? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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Yes! But they still don't take low scorers. Educated parents? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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OP: Do they ask parent's education? You think 97 is considered low? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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NP: all applications ask about parents' education. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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You mean parents at Dalton mostly have Masters or PhD? My DH and I graduated city college. Not good enough? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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Not low, of course, but won't get a second look except you offer diversity, so you have a fair shot. Every private asks which college you and dh went to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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dalton asks about elementary school on up. I found it ridiculous frankly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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NP: Who cares about my LI public school? I guess the fact that DH and I both went to the same Ivy (not HYP) would help? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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DH and I went to HYP and had a DC with a 98...still rejected (even after Babby gave us numerous reasons we were a "diverse" family) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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Apparently Babby makes everyone feel like their child is getting in. I can't decide if that's good - she's very positive, etc., or if it's bad - raises expectations way too much. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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NOthing is a guarantee. 99 kids get rejected, too. Of course, the kid has to be smart, but also very socially rounded (favor more extroverted, verbal ones though shy kids get in, too) and prek report is imp, parents who are nice, etc., etc. and even then, it depends on how many spots they have left. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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know plenty of people at dalton. they are not all nice, nor are their kids all very smart. there is more to the formula than that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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Of course we know there's more to the formula. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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Sure but I do think the kids are all smart. I don't think there is anyone below 50th percentile for extreme example. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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And shock of shock a lower scoring kid may be "smarter" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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Of course, and parents can write about that in the essay and they will see if the kid can indeed do what the parents claim he/she can. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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I definitely felt that having a shy DC was a handicap there. Also, of my personal (unconnected) friends whose children were accepted this year, all had very interesting careers (actors, etc.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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That's bec they want to know if you are alum. EVERY school asks that, not just Dalton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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wrong. they could just ask if you are an alum. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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Anyway, EVERY school asks this. I can't think of a reason why they would ask this. Unless they want to know where you're from. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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They want to know if your kid is a legacy somewhere else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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This is true. That will hurt your chances, not help. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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I think this is the reason they ask. They take legacies from other ongoings less seriously. Only at Town did the DOA ask about our double public school background. Never came up in Dalton or other interviews. DC was admitted to 3 schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 08:05 PM Flag
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Every private school does not ask where parents went to college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 08:53 PM Flag
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I disagree. a 97 mixed AA/wht has a huge chance...particularly if wealthy and in with the in AA crowd. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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OP again. How do the school know you are wealthy or not? Sorry for so many questions but you guys are really helping me! Thanks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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np: when we interviewed and toured there, all the AA applicants looked like they had mega bucks, and all their friends who were currently in the school showed up to wish them well, give a wink to babby, etc. it was one big ole lovefest. felt I was in a movie. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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Well, for tours, everyone looks like million bucks no matter where you are. We are $100k HHI but wore our best clothes for these school things and you might have thought we are rich. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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there is a difference between the best clothes of the MC and the good clothes of the very wealthy. they may have somewhat the same shape or style, but there is a huge difference [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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Well, if you say so. It's not like $$$$ clothes are made of gold. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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Uh huh, either you're exagerating (sp?) re: "all the AA applicants", or you're disproving your point. If there were so many wealthy AA applicants with such a great chance to get in, why are there so few at the school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 01:01 AM Flag
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It's hard to tell from these posts which posters are parents of Dalton kids and which ones are just going by stereotype. We are an incoming Dalton family and do not feel this year's incoming families were showy or wealthy at the few events they've had so far. I can only go by appearances but thankfully feel very comfortable in my Ann Taylor dressy casual clothes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 08:16 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.12.08, 03:18 PM Flag
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also, in terms of education, etc. Dalton will either peg you as one of the poorer (read MC) families, and that will be appealing more so because of diversity. But what they really want are the in group blacks with beaucoup bucks and connections in that world. otherwise being mixed Asian/Jewish is a big boost [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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Do schools ask parents annual income? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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it is obvious. surely you can tell someone who is very wealthy. look at the clothes and the jewelry. not everyoe can afford a $250K engagement ring. not everyone drives in an escalade, or has a driver. i am telling you, the mega wealth shows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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While some AA families are extremely wealthy (like Al Roker), I met many AA families who are NOT. But I must admit even the ones who are not $$ are still eloquent, savvy and educated for the most part. BTW, Dalton does care about attracting smart kids BUT they really do care about attracting families who share the same goals/values with them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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I think it is less about sharing values, and more about being a certain type...as in country club criteria. this of course includes arty, intellectual poor professor types for window dressing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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You are so wrong about this. While I'm sure there are country club types, most parents I met at least are not that. I met many parents who are not poor professors or whatever but with just normal company jobs, not making mega bucks, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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well, of course they are! there are plenty of educated, eloquent blacks (and whites, Asians, hispanics, etc.) who are not $$$. That comment just sounds silly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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Did you follow the thread? I'm not saying it's so remarkable that AAs are eloquent and educated but I'm saying they're not all $$$$$ like the person above me were saying (in order to get into D). I'm saying one doesn't have to be mega wealthy to get in. This is the biggest myth on UB> [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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I did, it was just the "even the ones who are not $$..." comment that struck a nerve. I understand what you were saying, but it would have read better without the "even." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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Well, what I meant is that even though I was trying to build a case (of not having to be mega $$$), I was conceding that I didn't see any AA families who were not eloquent, etc. Everyone was sophisticated. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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btw, I'm AA (on FA) just so that you know where I'm coming from. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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No, I got it. I just get a little sensitive on this board because in general there seem to be people who have low opinions of blacks in the academic arena. Sorry to be so touchy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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^^^LOL. I just read the part about you being black also. That just makes it even funnier that I was all over you. :) Clearly, I need to lay off the caffeine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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No prob. I know how UB can be and all the stupid things people say here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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My beef is how UB thinks diversity kids can get in no matter what the score and assume our kids are dumber. So, I take a moment to post that's not true and div kids need same good scores. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:54 PM Flag
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My diverse kid had 99x3 ERBs which gave us alot of choices. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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ITTTA. But the funny things is that 97 is a great score, and while it seems like all of the UB moms have kids who score 99, 97 is still better than the vast majority of the scores. (But yes, I hear you.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 06:19 AM Flag
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No, only if you are applying for financial aid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 08:55 PM Flag
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I don't know. I only saw maybe 2 kids with Asian/White mix this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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I know a 95, 96, 97 who got into Dalton [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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Sibs? And which year? For non-sibs, this year was brutal. Especially for girls. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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All girls, no sibs. FWIW, the boys I know with those score got too young letters. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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not this year, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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Sorry, could not respond to your post - yes, it was this year [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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Just curious, are they white? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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UB has to fix this. I can't respond to you directly a few were and a few were not. FWIW, my own non-white dc with a score in that range was rejected flat out from Dalton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:37 PM Flag
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^^^^ I think that they are really into you liking the school. I liked it, did not love it and dh was not into it at all, they knew. If you are a great fit in terms of family - I think you can easily get in with a 95 or so. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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Unfortunately, no matter what the score, it's not easy at all. Know many 99 and 98's who got rejected. Also know a family who told Babby that they were not at all interested in D and still got accepted. Who knows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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That is true, it is hard to get into any school these days, so who really knows. It is an rather imperfect numbers game [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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and dalton is mostly about furthering the image they are trying to establish. If your family can add to that, great. if not, you may well end up at cgps or cathedral. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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It is a great score. DC had same last year. It is only one factor though. We applied to 10 schools and got one accept off the waitlist. Take nothing for granted and apply broadly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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DC got a 98 last year and also applied to 10 schools. Got serious interest from four schools, was accepted only at the one we showed most interest in (not a TT, BTW). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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Yes it is good enough. Anything 95+ is good enough for the TT, however, that does not meant it will happen. It is a numbers game. GL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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St Anns does not ask where parents went to school/college. 97 is a very good score... don't listen to these people.Choosing a school is a very individual choice. I loved schools that my bf hated and vica versa. Check out the schools and follow your gut... apply to those you like for your child. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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Yes, they do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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Wow- what a sick conversation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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The current St. Ann's application does not ask where parents attended school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 06:05 AM Flag
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Jeez... DH went to Dalton years ago and while we are no longer in NYC, I cannot imagine going through what all of you NYC moms go through... You all deserve a big cocktail and a spa vacation ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 03:24 PM Flag
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How do you take the ERB's and get only one score? My dc had a lot of scores in different subsegments? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 04:07 AM Flag
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OP: DC's score is actually 98/98/97. Last one is Full scale so it supposed to be the total score.That's why I said 97. This is my understanding. Is this correct? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.13.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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General Topics 06.13.08, 03:59 PM Flag
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Yes, my DC had the same: 98/98/97 and last was total score. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.12.11, 09:08 AM Flag
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But when they did ERB in school, the scoring was different. There were stanines (single digit numbers) and more numbers (for different categories, as someone mentioned above. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.12.11, 09:10 AM Flag
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