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06.11.08, 10:55 AM General Topics
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I am at total peace with my 99 DS going to our local, zoned school. I love the school and was not that happy on the NEST tour. I'm betting we'll hear he has a seat at NEST, but we're not going to take it. I can finally sleep! [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.11.08, 10:55 AM Flag
 

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meanwhle parents of other children who don't have a good zoned option and really wanted NEST have many more sleepless nights ahead... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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Yes - doesn't seem like OP really cares about this little detail. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:04 AM Flag
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OP: You're right. I don't care about that detail. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:04 AM Flag
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np: I can't stand people like you, who think that the rules somehow don't apply to them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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np: I'm confused. We went through this process so long ago and apparently things have changed. What did OP do that was wrong? It just sounds like she was exploring all her options. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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She listed a school that she wasn't happy with and will not accept a seat at that school. Since there are no waiting lists this year, she will be denying a child a seat at that school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:10 AM Flag
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^^^but maybe she hadn't decided at the time of the deadline for application [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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The process required her to make her decision by then. Not now. With a 99 and NEST As her first choice, she's guaranteed to get that seat. And she knows she won't take it. By giving herself the luxury of deciding now, rather than 3 wks ago, she has taken away a seat from another kid. No wait lists this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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I see. That is rather selfish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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^^^and the thing that really makes it infuriating is that it's only people who have a good alternative who are going to do something like this. very entitled, and will have very entitled dcs, no doubt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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np: not so. She was not guaranteed her first choice and the process did not require her to make a final decision at the time of applying. I completely understand OP's decision to keep her options open. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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YOu're dead wrong. You clearly do not understand this year's G&T process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 02:58 AM Flag
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what the hell are you talking about? When you ranked the schools you did not have to know exactly what school you would send your kid to or not. Your kid scored well enough and that means you have another option. I ranked all 10 choices in D2 but at this point of time it looks like I am only going to accept my first 3, maybe 4 top choices. But then I might think differently in a week when we get our letter or when it comes to register my child. I like to have options. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 06:54 AM Flag
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You should never have ranked programs where you would not be prepared to accept a seat. This process is not about giving you the widest range of options. You misunderstood (purposefully perhaps) this process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 06:56 AM Flag
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wow. you guys are something. I did not misunderstand the process. You are putting a meaning into it that I don;t think is there. My kid has a right to get a spot. And that she will get. If I accept it in the end or not is an entirely different matter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:02 AM Flag
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That's just not right. There are no wait lists, so someone else will pay the price for this "luxury" that you have given yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:03 AM Flag
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You know what? That seat that I gave up will end up in somebody's hands. When it comes to popular schools there will not be empty seats. The DOE is going to oversubscribe anyway. Then there will be retested and newly tested kids over the summer. In the end the spots will be filled. Maybe not with YOUR child but with somebody else's. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:05 AM Flag
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No one knows that for sure. You're just trying to rationalize your behavior now. Whatever. People like you are always trying to game the system to fit their own needs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:08 AM Flag
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Nobody knows nothing at this point of time. We do know, though, that the DOE does oversubscribe the G&T programs based on past acceptance rates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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Only b/c you don't know the children. If you did, I'm sure you would care and might actually feel a pinch of remorse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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Then why did you take that seat at a citywide from some kid who WOULD accept it???!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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np: do we know that when she listed it, she felt the same way? its possible she applied, time has passed,and she's changed her mind. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:12 AM Flag
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that's what I was thinking [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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IT DOESN'T MATTER. Everyone was supposed to decide when they mailed in their form. There are no wait lists. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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you know, two years ago we were told no waitlists for G&T either. adn yet, somehow, kids got in later in the process after spots had been declined. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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We can only hope that the DOE will allow that to happen. Clearly something needs to be done about the flaky parents like the OP. The DOE should really go back to using wait lists. People just cannot be trusted to follow the rules. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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also, people move unexpectedly, etc. it just seems silly to not have at least a small list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:24 AM Flag
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np: ita. not in nyc but if NEST finds itself with 20 open spots is it truly not going to fill them? is it a public school? in my state schools receive funding based on numbers. our magnets would never turn away qualified students [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:34 AM Flag
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i'd assume they will at least slightly overaccept at most of the schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:39 AM Flag
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I toured one of our district G&Ts this winter, and this is precisely what happened 3 yrs ago. So the 2nd grade class has only had about 15 kids in it since Kindergarten. Yes, it could happen. At a citywide, it's probably less likely to happen, but still. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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and they didn't get any applicants to join the progrma in 1st or 2d? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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which is why it's goo to pleasantly keep in touch if you qualify and want to go there. If there are spaces I would guess they would take someone who has been in contact and pleasant about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 05:24 AM Flag
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why did you select NEST if you were not going to take it? Or did you just decide the commute is too much of a hassle and this is an Ego Defense thing? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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we made the same choice for dd and have never regretted our decision [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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That's kind of where I'm heading with Nest. I put it down because I really thought I would consider it, but the more I think about the commute and what our DS could do with the extra 2 hours a day. I will probably decline if we get a spot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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so if my 98 doesn't get a seat I know exactly who to blame... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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An anonymous poster on UB? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:33 AM Flag
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yeah... your DC, for not getting a 99. Crack the books next time, one-point-shy mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:39 AM Flag
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yeah I know, but how much can I punish the kid? he is still grounded and not allowed to drive the car until he shapes up--I figure in about 12 years or so he might have learned his lesson [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 11:47 AM Flag
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FWIW, I used to teach at NEST, and would never send dc there. That was under the old administration, tho--not sure how/if it's different now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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do you have ex-coworkers you are friendly with? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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Can you say more so that your post could be useful? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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the only useful thing she mentioned was that she taught there under the old administration. I.e. she has absolutely nothing to add anymore. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:04 AM Flag
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np: In fairness, she qualified her post with, "FWIW" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 08:52 AM Flag
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Then why post if you don't know? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 12:54 PM Flag
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Well, it is a chance to say something negative about NEST. Collect fifteen of those posts and you get a prize. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 01:34 PM Flag
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That's too easy--you can find 100 like this in just the past two weeks. You have to set the bar higher. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:06 PM Flag
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No. They have to be your post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:07 PM Flag
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why take the test if you were happy with zoned school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 12:41 PM Flag
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np: I think a lot of parents hear all the crazy talk and start to believe it - that their child can't get a good education unless in a G&T school. Then the dust settles, they relax a bit, and realize it's just not true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:13 PM Flag
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Your an ass. Clearly your post is meant to create angst among those parents you know are waiting, praying and hoping that their kid gets into NEST. You are selfish and self absorbed. I hope your post is a fake - or that you get hit by a bus. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:41 PM Flag
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np: You hope someone gets hit by a bus over a school slot? Good god, the DOE has turned us all into crazy people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:44 PM Flag
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OR: Figuratively speaking of course. This process has made me a bit crazy. I do hope there is a process for a 2nd chance at schools where other people who got in decline the seat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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I hope so too. But everyone needs to take it down a notch. It's not like OP was keeping your child from a cancer doctor or something. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.08, 02:53 PM Flag
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Get this: the process is not about me or you. You have to see the bigger picture. OP giving up a seat at NEST might put somebody at a disadvantage but at the same time gives an opportunity for some other family. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:07 AM Flag
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How do you know that some other family will get the opportunity? If the OP had played by the rules, then the more deserving candidate should get that seat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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"more deserving"? I would love to see how you decide how one kid is more deserving than the other. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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Score, dummy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 08:56 AM Flag
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"Score" is a stupid answer. All kids in the 97+ bracket should be treated equally, for example. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 09:14 AM Flag
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What all of you are forgetting is that they will likely OVERACCEPT - so by giving up a seat, it is helping all the others who do accept NEST achieve a class size that is in line with what it should be! If everyone accepted - the class size would likely be too big. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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The problem is they will only overaccept by a certain margin. Whether the DOE accurately gages the extent of the problem illustrated by this OP is unknown to us. I hope they get it more or less right. None of us are forgetting that. But it's really annoying to see people like the OP who flagrantly disregard the rules of the process for their own personal convenience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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Yes but think about all the people who Don't come on UB, who never were told there wasn't a wait list. I am sure there are tons! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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What rules are you talking about? The rules according to UB? The rules were to rank your choices and wait for your placement letter. Nowhere was there a rule that says: btw, only rank the schools you will most likely accept when assigned to you. Unless you give me a link to where such thing is mentioned there was no such rule. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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OR above and I concur with you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:29 AM Flag
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tritto [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 08:39 AM Flag
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There is no wait list. 'Nuff said. If you can't figure out the implications of that, that's your problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 08:56 AM Flag
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But no where did they ever publicly state that actually! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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Waitlist or not does not matter. The DOE over-enrolls kids in order to deal with the folks that decline a spot. Then there are kids that are going to be retested due to errors and kids that move to NYC over the summer and will be tested. Those fill the other spots. The implications of me not accepting a spot are nil in the greater view of things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 09:15 AM Flag
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98 ds here and same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.08, 07:54 AM Flag
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I wonder how all the angry angry moms on this thread feel after today?? LOL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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