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06.10.08, 19:46 PM General Topics
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I posted earlier that i thought gifted programs weren't good for kids. It's not personal. I've taught in all sorts of programs. From inner city to middle level to gifted. It sets up a hierarchy that prizes certain achievements and doesn't allow the kids at any level to express and achieve to their potential. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.10.08, 07:46 PM Flag
 

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you know, you could say this about any school environment. by its very nature, schools prize certain achievements over others, and kids rarely have opportunities to express themselves beyond the school curriculum no matter what program they're in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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i tend to think the US system (not commenting on other countries bc i don't know them to the same degree) is not one that works well. we ask younger children to sit for large portions of the day instead of oging out and running around, explroing. we ask them to take tests to determine what they've learned. and they don't teach how to think. i've also taught university, and it's a huge problem there as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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curious your thoughts on homeschooling? the more I consider the K classroom for my fidgety, distractable ds, the more I am tempted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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i have considered it. but i'm not sure i have the patience or organization for it. i liek the idea of banding with a few other moms and oding it together. also, i know many people say the social aspect of homeschooled kids isn't an issue, but to me it is. again, the idea of working with some othe rmoms seems very appealing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:00 PM Flag
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my ideal would be three homeschooling hours w/ my ds in the morning, then send him to a school environment for recess, gym, art, etc...sigh. can't imagine any school allowing this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:03 PM Flag
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if we had stayed in nyc, i would have talked to friends of mine and worked out a school of our own. something smaller that could include programs at any of hte hundreds of organizations in the city. (btw, i'm not sure there's so much art, recess or gym at schools anymore). so much better to go to the Met, then draw in central park afterwards and run around. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:05 PM Flag
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I don't know. Lots of happy alums from my dc's gifted school. Lots of accomplished alums too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 07:59 PM Flag
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accomplishment tends to be measured by the same standard as gifted. so you teach gifted kids what they're supposed to want and many of them get it. but there are so many things that are overlooked bc it doesnt' fall within the range of what is "supposed to be." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:01 PM Flag
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I have no idea what you're talking about. These are people successful in all kinds of fields. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:23 PM Flag
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i'm not just talking abt success in established fields. beyond that, i really can't get into this here. it's not the right forum for it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:25 PM Flag
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^^but how is this... what if your gifted, ivy league graduated ds or dd decided to leave and travel for as long as s/he felt like it and sold jewelry to make a living along the way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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I'm talking about creative fields. And unless you're talking about home porn or making meth, I don't see why you "can't get into this"! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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see what i said above. even the creative fields can be relatively limited and limiting in many areas. there are so many things that are cutting edge that aren't accepted. and so many potential life experiences that seem frightening and "out there" so people tend to think of them as unacceptable. but they are unbelievable ways of learning about life and the world. and teach you to learn, think and take care of yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:30 PM Flag
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Do you really think that it's only gifted schools which would limit a dc in these "cutting edge" experiences? I would think it's more about family, about culture - don't you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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it's most certainly both. but a child who doesn't fit into the school system. feels s/he doesnt belong is more likely to try something so different. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:33 PM Flag
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OP here.. i'm aslo having troubel replying.. i only say ivy graduated bc i think of it as the college equivalent of gifted programs. and after spending all that money on school, i think people would have a very hard time thinking their child would then not "use" the degree s/he earned. i think most 21 yos woudl have a hard time going against what his/her parents and schools expects of him/her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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Sorry but I have to cut this conversation short since this not being able to answer below a post is really driving me crazy! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:39 PM Flag
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i hear you. and it was verging on a good one between two mutually respectful people. so it goes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:41 PM Flag
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And sorry for answering your above question re jewelry making & traveling here but UB is wonky & I can't reply under your post but - sure, that's fine as long as dc is supporting herself. Why wouldn't it be? And why do you write Ivy graduated? I just said that dc goes to a gifted school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.08, 08:31 PM Flag
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