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06.07.08, 21:01 PM General Topics
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Just in case you are one of those who can't figure out why Clinton supporters are still angry. This about covers it: "And Venting. I still cannot believe that the FAR less qualified candidate is the one that was shoved down our throats by the media, and the DNC elite (or former elite, in terms of people like Daschle, who could NOT swing SD into Obama’s win column! No one in the media has mentioned this, but Obama had himself WINNING SD by 15%. That’s a swing of over 25%, for those of you keeping score. What does THAT tell you?!?!). I cannot believe the way they have gamed the entire primary for him, how they dealt with FL and MI, how they did NOT deal with the NUMEROUS reports of wrong-doing by Obama’s people in the caucus states, and how they piled onto BOTH Bill and Hillary. The race-baiting by Obama, the MSM, and the DNC, was horrendous, and unforgivable. The sexism, though, for me, is what allowed me to quit the Party. I admit - I must have been naive to think things were better for women than they clearly are. What I saw was not just latant sexism, but raw MISOGYNY exposed from the media, especially, as well as the DNC, and Obama’s supporters (who have gone WAY beyond the pale in their misogynistic rants on Clinton). It was, and is, staggering." [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:01 PM Flag
 

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"They treated this incredibly accomplished woman as if she was some pesky little fly the menfolk just couldn’t get rid of, who just kept hanging around. As if she was an uninvited guest to their primary games. The attempts to push her out since FEBRUARY were just ABSURD, never mind that she ended up the Popular Vote winner, winning MORE votes than ANY primary candidate EVER. EVER. And, if the RBC had not acted completely immorally and unethically by stealing her votes, and giving votes to Obama he did not earn, she would be in the race, still. But that was the point, see - to make sure she COULD NOT WIN. Obama, on the other hand, has limped across the finish line set up by his handlers. Clinton has won far more of the primary contests over the past four months, not that the DNC or the MSM seem to care about THOSE pesky facts, and would be far closer to the necessary delegates needed had the RBC not stolen her votes AND her delegates…" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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"Just as an example, and a tip of the hat to Big Tent Democrat at TalkLeft for pointing this out, when Reagan was running against Ford, a sitting president, the nomination went to the Convention EVEN THOUGH Ford had both the popular vote lead, and enough delegates. You read that right - the fight went to the Convention EVEN THOUGH Ford was ahead in both categories. And, as we all know, Kennedy took HIS fight to the Convention floor even though HE was down over 700 delegates. So, even though NEITHER Clinton nor Obama could reach the goal line without the aid of the Superdelegates, Clinton was SHOVED out of the door, insulting her 18 million supporters along with her. Frankly, we have all been treated like shit by the DNC, the MSM, and the Obamatrons, who, I might add, are the most ungracious winners I have ever seen. It is EXACTLY like dealing with Bush Republicans. They continue to attack, attack, attack Clinton supporters, not realizing, I guess, that they cannot win without us. And without accepting that many of us will NEVER vote for this incredibly arrogant, flawed, inexperienced, sexist, homophobe they are propping up. Never." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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"So, once again, the Democrats seem to have managed to grab certain defeat out of the mouth of a certain win. Many of us have left the Party as a result of Clinton’s treatment (including my almost 78 yr old mother, a Democrat snce the Sixties, who told me today that she is changing her registration to Independent because of the way the Party has acted. She said she has NEVER seen anything like this before… By the way, there is a movement afoot to have people change their registration on June 10, as it is the anniversary of Michigan giving women the right to vote in 1919.). Most certainly, the validity of Obama’s coronation is tarnished as a result of the sexism that helped him mightily from the get-go, but CERTAINLY with the delegate/vote-stealing. There is no doubt about that." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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"And see, this isn’t about sour grapes that our candidate didn’t win. I didn’t support Kerry at ALL, but voted for him in 2004. No, this is about how the DNC has treated its core base, women, and working class voters. But, hey - Donna Brazile says the New DNC doesn’t even NEED those working class voters anymore, so I reckon THEY are free to leave, too. Especially though, as a woman, I have reached my point. I will not support this incredibly sexist, inexperienced man over the FAR more qualified woman, and I sure as HELL won’t support an organization that engages in such systematic sexism, even misogyny. So, just to be clear - this isn’t about the candidate per se, but about the treatment of women, the group that has historically held the Democratic Party together." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:04 PM Flag
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No, she HAS NOT [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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I could not read this, but you are an IDIOT!!!! She is NOT more qualified than he. Also, he followed the rules and was NOT on the ballot in MI and DID NOT campaign in FL. That is that. I would love to have a woman as president, but that is not going to happen in 2008. That said, the racist BS lobbed at Obama is absurd! The best PERSON won and we have to support him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:06 PM Flag
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ITA!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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do we really have to? I don't support people who don't support me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 09:09 PM Flag
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I agree with everything in this OP. However, I will vote for the Democratic nominee because the Supreme Court is at stake. Apparently, this is not yet the time for the movement on gender-related issues that I wish it were. I'll keep fighting, nonetheless. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.07.08, 10:02 PM Flag
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Obama won't protect you, you can't trust him with the Supreme Court. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.08.08, 12:55 AM Flag
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OP, apart from being a twit, is merely trying to stoke discord amongst democrats. She/he/it is best flagged and ignored for the spammer she/he/it is. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.08.08, 01:50 AM Flag
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she broke the rules, kept trying to shift the game and pandered more than I've ever seen any politician pander. I was embarrassed for her and she now makes my blood boil in a way she never did before the primaries. Listening to her is like listening to a person so completely out of touch with reality. Tenacity? No. Arrogance? Yes. Narcissism? Absolutely. She got to the point where she'd do or say anything and you don't want that in a politician. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.08.08, 03:14 AM Flag
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I dont' get it - so you're going to vote for mccain to get back at Obama? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.08.08, 03:30 AM Flag
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isn't it sad that Idiots can vote? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.08.08, 05:52 AM Flag
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